I don't know what you folks are compliaining about. There's plenty of ice up in Stoney Clove. We had a short day yesterday. Got on The Entertainer and that easier thing tothe right of it. plenty o' ice. Okay okay, the topout sucked balls, but I was able to get screws wherever I need them. Little Black Dike is as fat as I have ever seen when I've been on it. Quit yer belly aching and get out there.