I guess the reality is that there are always going to be ridiculous leaders out there, as there are always going to be crazy drivers out there, and some of them are going to get hurt/die.

The problem is complacency, there are close to 60,000 deaths by car wreck per year, and no one does anything. But when someone dies climbing, every non-climber's reaction is 'Well that was stupid of them. They shouldn't have been there anyway. Let's ban climbing so it doesn;t happen again..."

Stupid world.