I think they are junk. They can be bomber if you have a good stance and a lot of time to fiddle them, but you can't slide them moveable toprope style which makes them nearly useless to me.

The big camalots and big friends complement each other - the wideness of the friends makes them more stable in some places and worthless in others. I loved my old yates big dudes before some asshole stole them out of my car.

When the going gets truly wide, Vally Giants are great if you can get your hands on them. I have the 9" and the 12". A 5.13 offwidth climber friend of mine used to mock me relentlessly for having them until he found a new route where he needed them. I absolutely had to have them for this beauty out in the desert too:

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