Sorry, got cut off there.

Anyway, it's cool that you nabbed your ascent of Kansas City. You do it any way you feel is good for you, and I don't judge how anyone else climbs. The point of the thread was knowing the local ethic. If I went to The Red and was able to leave draws in place for a send of a route, maybe I would. But, I would certainly ask someone there first if that was cool to do.

I like how you had to throw a number in there to replace the word armchair, as if 5.8 isn't worthy enough to warrant having an opinion. Very classy.