Jim, thanks for that beta. Someone had told me the line might be called that. I was looking at following the main hand/fist crack all the way. It sure looks steep up there, but fun! One of the great things about not ever having a guidebook for the area is that everything is exciting when you first get on it. I did a direct finish to Dances With Darkness this way last year. We had no idea what it was, but it sure looked cool. We climbed the roof straight out of the cave, which Horner told me later is not the way the established route goes. It sure was fun getting my ass spanked on it.