Donald unless you're on a multi day alpine ice route, the weather doesn't that fast to turn an otherwise good route into a river
I do not belive that is true. What about the Eiger? I know that these days people can do it in a few hours. But suppose you were off to do it in a few days? Arn't there accounts of these kind of things happening there?
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The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here
http://youtu.be/9AU8fMo8v4k.
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