OK, I will be honest. When I first saw that video it was a few days ago. After I saw it, I do not know if you had the same reaction I did, but I was pissed off. I own a company and, for example, if I saw some of my workers belaying before being tied in, filming before someone was tied in, climbing without protection on something like that and falling off I would be pretty pissed off. Heads would roll. These are the kinds of things that go through the mind of a business owner, any business owner not just me. They get pissed off when they see these kinds of things. Not to mention, if you have seen the responding posts, they are not very encouraging toward ice climbing in general. I am sure these kinds of posts do not do much for helping ice climbing around Peterskill Falls. So why is it here on youtube? I suppose these people must be proud of themselves? There is no reason for ice climbing to be like that [the climber could not even make it up with a rope] and like you said, it does not have to be, unless you are on something like the Eiger off season. So why is the video online? Perhaps it does some good to encourage other would be fatalities to think again and back off, so there is good in it.

OK, so now, when I posted the video and wrote

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Incredible skill, do you have what it takes to live to die another day? This is a video of my recent ice trip in Colorado. After I realized I was on camera [Crap!] I went back and did it again, this time without the rope. I was able to dry tool it. Unfortunately the people were not very enthusiastic and did not care about shooting another shot----posting this shot instead, without my consent. Not very nice. "


what I was trying to do was sarcastically impersonate the climber in the video with some critical analysis. I thought it was obvious, who would boast about incredible skill while making a complete jackass out of themselves on line, but I guess there are people out there who just believe there are people who are inexperienced and proud of it, and that I was that man. Although I have never met anyone like that myself. Maybe there are people out there who wanted to believe that the man in the video finally had a voice. You can see from the first lines that the post is meant to be sarcastic, "Incredible skill?". But rather then believe it was sarcastic people understood it to be a confession of insanity, so I played the part. The first question I would have asked is: "Why did you post incredible skill?, you had none, you have none! Do you think this is the apex of man meets ice?".

So is there a third option? I think there is, I was being sarcastic. It was not my intention to be annoying. It was not as serious a post initially as people made it out to be.

But there are a lot of questions I believe that can be explored here that I do not know if anyone has brought up yet, I was trying to get to them, but it never happened. In that respect it would have nice to have been the guy in the video, it would have made for some interesting conversations. Too bad it never really happened, in that regard. If my objective was to trying impersonate the guy, I would have done it from an anonymous account, but I don't have the time for that.

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The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here http://youtu.be/9AU8fMo8v4k.