And I did say "Apparently from reading many of the comments on many climbing forums, Ivan Greene has been doing this for years". I never said he did it. How do I know whose doing it?, I'm just reading the thread.

But if wants to be a man, then he needs to come out and admit it.

Edited by donald perry (02/26/13 12:44 AM)
The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here