And I did say "Apparently from reading many of the comments on many climbing forums, Ivan Greene has been doing this for years". I never said he did it. How do I know whose doing it?, I'm just reading the thread.
But if wants to be a man, then he needs to come out and admit it.
The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here http://youtu.be/9AU8fMo8v4k.