I tend to agree with Rich on this. I have always contended that you don't really know your lead limit until you walk up to a route with no information. No route name, no description, no gear rating, no knowledge of there being a route there. Then and only then is your true boldness revealed. I've confidently hopped on 5.10's here, knowing full well that gear will be available because of a G rating, or because of a detailed description. I've backed off 5.7's at Lost City and in the Nears when I attempted to just do them with no knowledge...fully shitting my pants with no gear in sight.

for some people, like Rich, they are emboldened by that lack of gear and it really helped them push their limits. Others, like me, realize that we are in fact not 5.10 onsight climbers

Edited by RangerRob (11/09/13 01:19 AM)