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#13765 - 12/08/04 02:25 PM Message read/unread status
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Starting yesterday, when I go into threads (In flat mode, but I haven't tried threaded mode) and read messages, the status no longer updates from gray to white after I have read everything. This happens in both the message view and the forum view, but the toplevel view still goes back to showing white ("nothing unread since last visit") if I go into a forum with or without reading anything.

This is becoming a major annoyance.

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#13766 - 12/08/04 02:28 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
pedestrian Offline
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And now, after deliberately logging out and back in, it seems to be working for the moment. Never mind I guess!

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#13767 - 12/08/04 10:14 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
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Nate-
If this is your idea of a "major annoyance", I'm sure glad I'm not your office mate!

Anyway, I'm not sure what's causing the problem, but we're going to be upgrading the forum software in the next 2 weeks, so I hope this will get solved for you. If it still happens, try deleting your gunks.com specific cookies, or all of them if you don't know how to find a particular one.

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#13768 - 12/13/04 07:34 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: webmaster]
pedestrian Offline
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the problem hasn't come back. while it was here, though, it was making it impossible to use the site in anything remotely approaching an efficient manner.

I'm sorry you feel that this is a non-issue. Look, there are several bugs in the software here. Most of them have workarounds, or only show up often enough that they are just annoyances, nothing more. This one, while still just an annoyance, was disruptive enough to be a "major annoyance." Now that it seems to have gone away (logging out and logging in seems to have worked around the problem, but who can tell) it has fallen back into the "minor annoyance" category.

Have a nice day!

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#13769 - 12/15/04 03:58 AM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
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The upgrade is just about ready. You'll need to hang in there just a little bit longer.

Then again, it might be your browser, and then you wouldn't be out of the woods.

-em
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#13770 - 12/15/04 02:26 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: webmaster]
Aya Offline
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Keeping my fingers crossed that it's the upgrade, because I've been having the same problem sporadically as well

btw I use Safari on a mac with OS 10.3

edit: rereading, I have the opposite problem. When I check the board, I get everything marked as unread, and some forums show up as having no threads in them ("new forum") at all. Usually if I click around a bit and refresh a bit it fixes itself, but it's definitely something that's just started happening in the last week or so.


Edited by Aya (12/15/04 02:28 PM)
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#13771 - 12/15/04 05:46 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: webmaster]
MarcC Offline
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Then again, it might be your browser, and then you wouldn't be out of the woods.



We are well past the time when web sites can blame the browser. Site operators now have no choice but to write to standards and support all modern browsers, especially as more and more companies and universities move away from IE. The latest was the University of Pennsylvania last week which told it's community of 88,000 students and faculty to use Mozilla, Fireox, Opera, or Safari instead of IE.
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#13772 - 12/15/04 07:48 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
DollarBill Offline
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Loc: Billerica, MA

Of course, if Gunks.com had a conscientious webmaster, he or she might run a
poll of what browsers Gunkies are using.

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#13773 - 12/15/04 08:17 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: DollarBill]
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Of course, if Gunks.com had a conscientious webmaster, he or she might run a poll of what browsers Gunkies are using.

Aw c'mon, DollarBill - are you serious?
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#13774 - 12/15/04 08:26 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: DollarBill]
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Quote:


Of course, if Gunks.com had a conscientious webmaster, he or she might run a
poll of what browsers Gunkies are using.




and every half-conscious webmaster knows that their host usually collects that information automatically so they don't have to bother their members to conduct a poll.

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#13775 - 12/15/04 09:46 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: Aya]
pedestrian Offline
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Aya, I think you'll find that there is actually a specific pattern to what you're talking about.

If you click into a forum but don't read all the threads therein, you'll still get a "no unread" when you go back to the top level page.
The server has recorded the time of your last visit to the forum and is indicating that there are no new messages since your last visit. If you go into each forum, you'll still be able to see which threads are unread.

The "new forum" thing is a minor glitch I have been seeing for years, but I've never noticed it causing any real problems with the read/unread. (Maybe I just didn't notice.)

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#13776 - 12/16/04 03:32 AM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
Aya Offline
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Quote:

Aya, I think you'll find that there is actually a specific pattern to what you're talking about.

If you click into a forum but don't read all the threads therein, you'll still get a "no unread" when you go back to the top level page.
The server has recorded the time of your last visit to the forum and is indicating that there are no new messages since your last visit. If you go into each forum, you'll still be able to see which threads are unread.






no no, that's why I edited to clear it up. I occasionally get it telling me that the forums are ALL UNREAD... even when I know I've read them... but it still has me own as being logged in (so at least that cookie is working right...)... eh, like I said, a bit of clicking around usually clears it up (but oddly, refreshing the page does NOT fix it up).. who knows *shrug*
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#13777 - 12/16/04 01:02 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: Aya]
crackers Offline
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i get the same problem on occasion

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#13778 - 12/16/04 03:13 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: Aya]
pedestrian Offline
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no no, that's why I edited to clear it up. I occasionally get it telling me that the forums are ALL UNREAD... even when I know I've read them... but it still has me own as being logged in (so at least that cookie is working right...)... eh, like I said, a bit of clicking around usually clears it up (but oddly, refreshing the page does NOT fix it up).. who knows *shrug*




Oh, ok, I've seen that one too, but it might be slightly different from what I've seen. You can try logging out (and back in) or closing your browser completely (all windows), or both.

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#13779 - 12/16/04 05:00 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
crackers Offline
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Loc: pdx
that doesnt work.

plus, when i try to read the last posted message, it still says unread new messages when i go back to the main index.

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#13780 - 12/16/04 05:38 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: crackers]
CrackBoy Offline
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do you click through the forums or do you click on the link of the last new post?

i have found that if i click through the forum, the new posts unread thing turns off, where as if i say clicked on your last post since that is whats shown, it would still come up as unread.
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#13781 - 12/16/04 06:12 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: CrackBoy]
crackers Offline
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exactly. clicking the link says its still unread.

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#13782 - 12/17/04 07:51 PM Re: Post read/unread status [Re: crackers]
crackers Offline
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now, if i get out of the forum by going first to the forum index and then to the main index, the status is accurate. if i go straight to the main index, it still reports the post as unread.

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#13783 - 12/17/04 09:24 PM Re: Message read/unread status [Re: pedestrian]
DollarBill Offline
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Registered: 06/08/04
Posts: 56
Loc: Billerica, MA
I wasn't serious about the webmaster part (gunks.com is wonderfully run, and
I was only trying to josh, honest). I should have stuck in one of those smiley
thingies, except I was in a rush, and besides I was seriously curious as to
what people actually use, and didn't want to indicate that my curiosity was a
joke. Personally, I'm on IE with nary a problem, but I've also used other browsers
with no problems either. I realize server software may keep such records, but
some programs don't. The data would be easy to gather in any event.

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