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#17297 - 11/21/05 03:25 PM
Re: Furtherance of the Ruse
[Re: Kent]
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old hand
Registered: 05/26/04
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Kent,
When I climb I climb with a partner!
The fact that we don't have a partnership website or phone number does not mean we are not partners!
Today you sound as paranoid as I do sometimes.
If you have problem with the fires please tell us what it is.
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#17299 - 11/21/05 04:37 PM
Re: Furtherance of the Ruse
[Re: Kent]
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old hand
Registered: 05/26/04
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Ok, as you describe it , this sounds like a conflict of interest. But, it also sounds like a a town planning problem not a Preserve problem.
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#17301 - 11/22/05 07:33 PM
Re: Furtherance of the Ruse
[Re: Kent]
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Pooh-Bah *
Registered: 09/07/01
Posts: 2483
Loc: Davis Sq., MA
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What's that old adage about politics and sausage making?
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we're all living proof that nothing lasts
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#17303 - 11/22/05 09:35 PM
Re: Furtherance of the Ruse
[Re: Kent]
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addict
Registered: 08/30/01
Posts: 621
Loc: Bergen County NJ
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I fail to see the devious nature of this. The organizations listed all favor preservation of the ridge for ecological and related purposes. There does not appear to be anything hidden or sinister about their motives. Of course the rich 'members' fund and direct the work of the partnership. In most organizations, 10% of the people do 99 % of the work.
From what you say, it sounds like the question of the planners conflict of interest will be resolved via due process.
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#17304 - 11/23/05 01:39 PM
Re: Furtherance of the Ruse
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/05/00
Posts: 3400
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"I fail to see the devious nature of this. The organizations listed all favor preservation of the ridge for ecological and related purposes. There does not appear to be anything hidden or sinister about their motives. Of course the rich 'members' fund and direct the work of the partnership. In most organizations, 10% of the people do 99 % of the work."
One example of the Nature Conservancy's skullduggery was the purchase of a farm and surrounding land in Martha's Vineyard (64 million for 215 acres of land). Part of the campaign to "Save the Earth's Last Great Places" . Supposed to preserve the space for the commoners and all that. Except that the NC allowed half of the land to be sold to David Latterman and several others (Goldman Sachs and Oracle developers) to purchase parcels for their private use and development. NC officials tout the move as a way to preserve 1/2 the parcel and limit development on the other.
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#17305 - 11/23/05 03:14 PM
Re: Furtherance of the Ruse
[Re: alicex4]
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addict
Registered: 08/30/01
Posts: 621
Loc: Bergen County NJ
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I found that distasteful as well. I guess all that money had to come from somewhere, though. If the alternative was 100% development, they may have had to make the devils bargain.
Do you have any word that is what is happening here on the ridge?
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Backgrounder on the MV deal:
The skirmishes regarding the fate of Edgartowns Herring Creek Farm started more than a decade ago. Local furor greeted the initial proposal to transform a 215-acre cattle farm, owned by Neil and Monte Wallace, into buildable lots for 54 houses. Former MV Commission member Leonard Jason Jr. reportedly complained, Its another farm thats getting whacked up into little pieces. The great Pond is there, the farmland is going to be gone - thats not my idea of Marthas Vineyard.
Lawsuits later, the Marthas Vineyard Commission passed a revised plan for a 33-lot subdivision for houses. Meanwhile a small conglomerate, including late-night talk show host David Letterman, The Nature Conservancy, the three dreamers plus a business plan, arranged to purchase the land for $64 million to establish the F.A.R.M Institute and eight priceless house lots. To complete the transaction, a quick succession of sales rock practitioners of leisurely Vineyard time into a New York frenzy. While nervous neighbors still needed mollification, in the end the parties involved toasted the completion of this highly complex landmark deal.
It was a long process, but certainly the results are truly remarkable, admits John Curelli.
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