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#17526 - 12/20/05 02:58 AM Is it time yet?
intrepid02 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 1421
Loc: Boulder
So, can we impeach Bush yet? It seems pretty likely that he broke some laws in this latest scandal.

How ironic would it be for the recently appointed Chief Justice to preside over the trial?

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#17527 - 12/20/05 03:34 AM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: intrepid02]
Mike Rawdon Offline

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Registered: 11/29/99
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I'm sorry, but which legal transgression would that be exactly? Plamegate, misusing intelligence to send the US to war, domestic spying on US civilians, or illegal torture of detainees?

I'm so easily confused by this administration...

Maybe an intern could just give the Prez a hummer then we could get rid of him.

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#17528 - 12/20/05 07:18 AM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: Mike Rawdon]
Mark Heyman Offline
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Registered: 12/23/99
Posts: 1123
Loc: South Jersey (Pinelands)
Shhhsh. Otherwise we might not be able to find you in the morning, and who knows what country you'll end up in!

It is obvious he has the power whether or not he has he authority!

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#17529 - 12/20/05 01:49 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: intrepid02]
alicex4 Offline
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Not too burst your bubble too swiftly, but the previous administration used the NSA in just the same way. Project was called Echelon, google and weep.

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#17530 - 12/20/05 01:51 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: Mike Rawdon]
intrepid02 Offline
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I was talking specifically about his spying on US citizens. Particularly those whose only "crime" is protesting the war. To me this is not very different from what Nixon did, illegaly spying on his political enemies. Nixon at least had the good sense to not get the FBI and NSA involved.

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#17531 - 12/20/05 02:22 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: alicex4]
oenophore Online   confused
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An impeachment is the most political of prosecutions. It takes both houses of Congress to fire the impeached, and if one has the support of either, one is golden.

Project was called Echelon, google and weep.

Seems like a law firm.
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#17532 - 12/20/05 02:48 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: alicex4]
zachres Offline
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Quote:

Not too burst your bubble too swiftly, but the previous administration used the NSA in just the same way. Project was called Echelon, google and weep.




Well, there you have it... Clinton did it, so it must be ok????? Man, you Republicans sure can spin a web of logic (eyes roll).
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#17533 - 12/20/05 03:03 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: zachres]
alicex4 Offline
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No, just wondered where your outrage was earlier, couched in ignorance or indifference? At least you have woken up now Zachres and smell the coffee.

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#17534 - 12/20/05 03:31 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: alicex4]
crackers Offline
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sorry alice, but you're wrong again.

Echelon is much older than clinton, and just happened to evolve bigger during his time.

And Echelon is completely different than deciding to spy on an individual and using the capabilities of Echelon do it.

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#17535 - 12/20/05 04:07 PM Re: Is it time yet? [Re: crackers]
alicex4 Offline
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Why is it different? Echelon was economic and this is political in nature? I need illumination.

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