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#18319 - 03/07/06 04:08 AM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: Mike Rawdon]
D75 Offline
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LOL - I am sure you do... My bet still stands. Especially since you have not yet posted even a picture of a track

I am with Mike on this...

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#18320 - 03/07/06 01:05 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Bobcats don't really have enough tail to "swoosh".

oh come on man, i was going for poetry! i do remember a tail though ...

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#18321 - 03/07/06 01:36 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: fallenglass]
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yeah like you will be able to tell D75. as of right your little mind is already made up. what do you want to bet?
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#18322 - 03/07/06 02:50 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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I think it goes by degrees;
Third degree - photograph
Second degree - physical evidence (fur, scat)
First degree - a body


Maybe that explains these dreams I've been having of Devil's Tower . . .

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#18323 - 03/07/06 04:03 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Quote:

First degree - a body


So the only confirmed mountian lion is a dead mountain lion?

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#18324 - 03/07/06 04:16 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: dalguard]
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No, the body itself isn't evidence enough (unless it's something like bigfoot whose very existence is questioned). If you have a dead mtn lion's body, that's all you have, a dead body. It could have escaped from a zoo, could have been smuggled from out west, could be just a stray that got lost and wandered in.

If they found evidence of a pair of cats, then that's significant because that could mean a breeding population has returned to the area.
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#18325 - 03/07/06 08:12 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: quanto_the_mad]
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email reply from John Thompson a Natural Resources Specialist at the mohonk preserve said the prints look like a coyote.

there it is d
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#18326 - 03/07/06 10:33 PM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: irisharehere]
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Now that's one way to deal with undisciplined dogs at the cliffs.
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#18327 - 03/08/06 01:25 AM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: talus]
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While we're on the subject, are there wolves in the area? I saw what looked like one in the headlights near Gardiner. It was not a coyote, I know that. It may have been a domestic dog but I'm telling you, it looked like a wolf.

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#18328 - 03/08/06 02:15 AM Re: by yourself be careful [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Thanks for info. I guess I kind of include coyotes as large canine, because they are becoming more prevalent. But I only said dog. Actually I am obviously not surprised. Truth tell, I made a cast of a couple prints in NJ that I was pretty certain were feline, though in this case I was expecting bobcat. The canine claws just often do not show up, but the pad patterns are distinctly different if you know what to look for. I did not at the time. Prints came up dog. They were in mud next to some pretty obvious turkey tracks and we had physically observed turkeys. Kind of exciting finding this kind of stuff though!

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