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#19101 - 03/30/06 09:58 PM Nyah Nyah
zachres addict Registered: 04/03/03 Posts: 495 Loc: In the midst of a "psychotic b...	http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/03/30/prayer.study.ap/index.html _________________________ Give me liberty, or give me death!
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#19102 - 03/30/06 10:57 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: zachres]
oenophore Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/24/01 Posts: 5856 Loc: 212 land	Maybe God hates pains-in-the-ass who bug him too much. _________________________
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#19103 - 03/30/06 11:07 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: oenophore]
The Lisa addict Registered: 04/26/05 Posts: 409 Loc: Da Bronx	Remember: 'God helps those who help themselves'. Because when people help themselves, there is no need for God to do anything. _________________________ Sent from my iPad.
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#19104 - 03/31/06 03:02 AM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: The Lisa]
dalguard veteran Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 1515 Loc: CT	Quote: They also said they had no explanation for the higher complication rate in patients who knew they were being prayed for Maybe the people who thought God was going to help them didn't bother to help themselves.
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#19105 - 03/31/06 05:04 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: zachres]
oenophore Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/24/01 Posts: 5856 Loc: 212 land	On a more serious note than that of my flippant first reply, I'm a bit surprised. Shamans (faith healers, witch doctors, medicine men, etc.) have had a powerful beneficial placebo effect on the afflicted. There's no way to have a double-blind hands-on experience, I suppose. How might one conduct such an experiment? _________________________
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#19106 - 04/01/06 03:37 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: zachres]
timh member Registered: 10/18/00 Posts: 192 Loc: Delaware	Maybe the subject's reaction to beng told that someone else was praying/making burnt offerings/sacrificing virgins on their behalf was one of "Oh no, I must really be f*****." Alturnatively , could it be a concern that said entrieties were not directed to the appropriate deity? _________________________ Tim
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#19107 - 04/01/06 04:30 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: timh]
dalguard veteran Registered: 03/22/00 Posts: 1515 Loc: CT	That's a good point. If you actually believe there's a god, you've got to believe there's a right one. They're not interchangeable. Did the study say which one they picked?
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#19108 - 04/01/06 07:07 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: timh]
Mike Rawdon Carpal Tunnel Registered: 11/29/99 Posts: 4230 Loc: Poughkeepsie	Quote: Maybe the subject's reaction to beng told that someone else was praying/making burnt offerings/sacrificing virgins on their behalf was one of "Oh no, I must really be f*****." Alturnatively , could it be a concern that said entrieties were not directed to the appropriate deity? Or maybe they rolled the prayer up with other intentions: "Please lord, help that dude get well, OK? And grant that our service men and women shall emerge victorious in your name in their crusade to spread democracy and stability to the heathens of Iraq so that they too can worship you and praise you on cable TV like we can, because, well, we all know that's what you want, OK?"
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#19109 - 04/01/06 11:57 PM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: The Lisa]
gibroni newbie Registered: 12/14/05 Posts: 30	Quote: Remember: 'God helps those who help themselves'. Because when people help themselves, there is no need for God to do anything. Check it, God is definitely on sabbatical.....................................and maybe he's found somewhere better? Wouldn't you if you had the power of free will?
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#19110 - 04/02/06 12:06 AM Re: Nyah Nyah [Re: gibroni]
gibroni newbie Registered: 12/14/05 Posts: 30	Maybe he'll show his sly self once all of this squabbling is over.............................. and The Natural disaster begins. [img=http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/7255/helix064bx.png] [
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