Quote: except that on a traverse, a hell of a lot of force can be generated in a fall, and could torque out a cam, no?
No, not really. People pendulum all the time (try doing The Nose (Valley--not Gunks) without a pendulum)And in that pic, their piece is right in front of them. Shorter falls generate the most force and are the most dangerous. The longer the fall, the safer it is (unless there is something to impact--then all thgings are different). Yet, people (including me) get more scared when looking at long falls even when we rationally know they are safer! TAKE! makes things more dangerous and is what generates the most force and can even create a situation where fall factor (THE MOST IMPORTANT NUMBER IN THE EQUATION) can raise above 2.0 !!
Quote: Okay, one more today. Also easy, and unlike Dawn's, NOT convenient:
Image is Wegetables. One of the few 5.11's and under I have never been on.