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#27977 - 03/30/07 07:11 PM Re: At war with Iran? !!! [Re: empicard]
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Where is all the outrage for Geneva Convention considerations now? I hear nothing. These Brits were soldiers in uniform of a sovereign state. Iran was out of bounds in Iraqui waters. These 15 soldiers have not met with either consular agents or red cross personnel, they are videotaped, all of which is against the GC. The LA Times said, "They weren't harmed physically, just mentally." Would that constitute mental torture, also against the GC. It is an act of war. Were I Blair, I would speak out of polital channels and tell the Iranians they have 30 days (starting with the original capture date) to return these Brits, or I would destroy the only refinery Iran has and really give them something to stew about. The West better wake up, we have been at "war" with Iran for 30 years now.

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#27978 - 03/30/07 07:18 PM Re: At war with Iran? !!! [Re: alicex4]
felix m Offline
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than it's a good thing your not Blair

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#27979 - 03/30/07 07:21 PM Re: At war with Iran? !!! [Re: felix m]
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Yeah, it's also a good thing not to follow the illustrious example set by Jimmy Carter in 1979. Only 437 more days to go for these hostages if the Carter model is used.

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#27984 - 03/31/07 11:46 AM Re: At war with Iran? !!! [Re: alicex4]
felix m Offline
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hmmmm

you imply that the US has been at war with Iran for 30 years.
i say we have been screwing them since 1953 when the cia overthrew a popular, democraticaly elected, iranian in Mohammed Mossadegh. his crime was upon election to nationalize his country's oil industry. the brits were furious and their anglo-iranian oil company which had been litteraly screwing the workers who lived in absolute poverty as well as the iranian gov't which got a pitance of the vast wealth emerging from this scam. the brits turned to america & the newly formed cia to stage a coup in iran which overthrew mossadegh and instal the ruthless shah. thank kermit roosevelt and operation ajax. no wonder these people hate us.

read this facinating story in stephen kinzer's brilliant "all the shahs men"

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#34807 - 12/11/07 11:15 AM Re: At war with Iran? !!! [Re: felix m]
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#34874 - 12/15/07 02:37 AM Re: At war with Iran? !!! [Re: oenophore]
talus Offline
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let Iran have nukes good for them. in fact i want a warhead that can mount on my truck.
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#34934 - 12/21/07 02:46 PM Re: The wheels are in motion... [Re: Daniel]
PeteG Offline
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...I think every one of us was more convinced about WMD and the threat of Saddam, five years ago than we are now.


Wrong! I, and many others I know, as well as some posters on this board, argued before our invasion that there is no evidence of WMD in Iraq. Quite contrary, the UNSCOM was consistently finding "evidence" that our claims were exaggerated, if not completely wrong. Remember our (heated) discussions, AliceX4, etc?

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#35308 - 01/21/08 04:49 PM Re: The wheels are in motion... [Re: PeteG]
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For an alternative essay on the subject, here's one by Naughty Noam.

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#35765 - 03/02/08 07:42 PM Re: The wheels are in motion... [Re: Daniel]
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Please, this is not for the faint at heart. This may help some, but others...

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm

Watch at your own risk!

Next movie is 3/8/08
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#35772 - 03/03/08 11:14 AM Re: The wheels are in motion... [Re: acdnyc]
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 Originally Posted By: acdnyc
Please, this is not for the faint at heart. This may help some, but others...

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm

Watch at your own risk!

Next movie is 3/8/08


crap crap crap
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