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#26767 - 01/18/07 02:51 PM When is enough.... well enough?
d-elvis Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/26/00
Posts: 3650
Loc: Central PA
You have a solid rack, so why buy more cams, biners, slings, shoes, headlamps? Can't Mgear quit sending me news of their sales? Then there's Steep & Cheap... where do they come off with those deals? Can't they see I have a problem? Where do I go for help?
"Marriage Survivor"

#26768 - 01/18/07 03:00 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: d-elvis]
chip Offline
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Registered: 10/06/01
Posts: 2676
Loc: Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
You just need to develop into a wall climber. Then you'll beat up your gear faster than you can replace it, especially ropes, and justify 4 cams of every size. Sandstone is best for this purpose. Canyoneering doesn't need the cams so much but rapping on a wet, sandy rope does wonders to your biners and rap device, requiring weekly replacement. Go get 'um.

#26769 - 01/18/07 11:07 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: chip]
browndog2 Offline
old hand

Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 767
Loc: livin' on the edge
Chip. Bless your thoughful considerate God-fearin' heart. You don't know D personally, but your dealings with troubled youth should give you a feel for when a man is calling out for help. Delvis probably read your kind reply and was honestly confused about your phrase "beat your gear up". He buys gear cuz he wants it not kuz he needs it. Some of his stuff has yet to have the anodize scratched (not that theres anything wrong with that). But thats what happens when gear spends its time aitting in the Delvis archives instead of sitting in Gunks horizontals.
(not that there's anything wrong with that...sorta)

#26770 - 01/19/07 07:40 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: d-elvis]
crackers Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3424
Loc: pdx
Hey Dennis,

I've got new packs...

#26771 - 01/20/07 12:59 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: crackers]
DeVkREv Offline

Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 29
Loc: Traprockville, Connecticut

Hey Dennis,

I've got new packs...



#26772 - 01/22/07 09:12 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: DeVkREv]
Chas Offline

Registered: 03/22/01
Posts: 1754
Loc: Flagstaff
no, no, no....

He needs to develop a crack habit, preferrably of the Indian Creek type of habit. At 5 cams in each size (like my rack), it will seem absolutely puny and you will wonder what routes you can do. 6-8 of each size is more sufficient....

#26773 - 01/24/07 06:16 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: d-elvis]
Mim Offline
old hand

Registered: 01/27/00
Posts: 999
Loc: Gunks

Where do I go for help?

Very simple. At the other end of the spectrum lies me, the climber whose rack is so small that others won't use it...
Sooo, you put all your extra gear in a big box, call me, and I'll pay for shipping.

#26774 - 01/24/07 07:27 PM Re: When is enough.... well enough? [Re: Mim]
johnnyontherocks Offline
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Registered: 10/06/00
Posts: 792
Loc: Bethlehem Pa
Mim do you remember Phil. The first time that Bdawg and I spent a day with him I should have put more thought into what Phil had said about my rack being for a big wall and that we would be using his( 8 nuts,3 tri cams, a red and gold camalot(( the wires on the gold were cut and useless)). Unfortunatly I did not know this until we had started climbing......
Johnny on the Rocks
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