Ok can’t seem to search anything here on Zion, RR and I are going to drag our lazy asses up some walls out there. Have been reading beta here and there. Were forgoing any bivy’s and are set on doing the routes in 1 – 1.5 days (I.e. fix couple of pitches one day, send the next) Prodigal Sun is a no brainier on that approach.

Couple of questions on Space Shot

Anyone do it in a day, or fix the 1st couple of pitches? It seems with the rolling lose couple of pitches in the beginning of Space Shot it would make fixing ropes a pain.

Is there a ledge at or near the start of P3 or P4 to crash out on, then fire the rest the next day?

You might want to find Ron Olevsky (piton ron) on supertopo.com.... I think he has his email listed in his profile.

Thanks, I heard of piton ron, he did a few of the first accents out there. Was looking for any homegrown info from any users lurking around these parts.

when you going? want a 3rd?

I did Prodigal Son a couple of falls ago. Didn't think we were too slow but ended up fixing 2 pitches, spending a night and still humped out the pig and a pack in the late evening. Granted, we had short days, but it wasn't as fast as I had thought we would have gone. The last pitch sucked trying to get the load up the ramp. PM me if you want to chat.

smike clean out your pm's

Almost forgot, bring a set of .5-#2 tri-cams. These were key.

Actually looks like you are the one in need of a PM cleaning...I Tried sending you one.

wow this is the 2nd time i deleted all my pm's. let's see now how it works

still couldn't pm you though

Tico lives out there these days.

I've done Prodigal and Space Shot. If you fix the first two real pitches of Prodigal, you should be able to finish it in a day. There is a good topo of it at the ranger's station by chris mac.

I never used tricams on that climb, but a big one might be nice.

I don't really remember Space Shot other than that it was really frigging hot. Moonlight Buttress looks really nice, I think you'd be better off doing that...