Ah if all things in life were so simple. As you get older you will find that with all things controversial in life, the truth lies not on one end of the extreme or the other, but somewhere in the middle.

To me the hardest part on GW is not getting the message out but finding the truth within.

Hehehe... Look at smike being all existential!

I think this would prove interesting if nothing else:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20070319.DCM015&show_article=1

Although nether can be seen as having any formal background in climatology, they both seem to have taken upon themselves to be the spokesperson for each side the GW debate.

The heat generated by this debate will make a significant contribution to global warming.

yellowhole

If you call hanging some pansy-ass banner off high e "taking action"...

Putting aside the issue of whether or not the banner would have been an effective tool in fighting global warming, you seem to be under the misaprehension that climbers are particularly conservation-minded. I'd suggest that you'd be a lot more clear-headed if you assumed that climbers at the Gunks have an almost identical split between conservation-minded and otherwise, to the general populace.

GO

Well, this action is better than inaction.

Do you really think that they planned on leaving the banner there to shred in the wind? Of course not. That would absolutley be littering.

Really. I am totally surprised that we climbers are split on this issue. When we climb we make a direct connection with the medium which we value so dearly and debate so hotly on this forum, and yet it seems that some of us gunkies aren't willing to go the extra mile to protect it.

Buying a season's pass does not entitle someone to ignore how to live efficiently in other parts of their life. Leave No Trace ethics can go beyond the trail...

Arguing regarding whether or not global warming exists is a ridiculous as denying that the holocaust happened.

Can climbers really believe that the environment is really so expendable that we're willing to abuse it so badly?

I know I'm an idealist, but I would hope that's better than the other options.

Buying a season's pass does not entitle someone to ignore how to live efficiently in other parts of their life.

Might a lifetime pass allow one this?

Ha! Nice...

I think it's litter even if someone goes back later and picks it up. It's litter while it's there.

But mostly it's just pointless. I didn't know that this banner had anything to do with global warming until it was mentioned on this thread. What does "step it up" mean? How would someone know that? It might as well say "just do it". Sounds more like an advertisement than anything. Probably is. Immediately following the event, Power Bar will come out with their new slogan and thank you for the free advertising.

I'm also surprised that climbers are split on the subject of hanging slogans from the cliffs, but I'm surprised that any climber could be in favor of it.