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#28834 - 05/03/07 04:27 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: Smike]
Dillbag Offline
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Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 1130
Loc: "The Town"
Smike, you either have a highly underdeveloped sense of taste... which would explain why you drink the nasty left-over beer sometimes

Or... You don't know what coriander is...
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#28838 - 05/03/07 05:28 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: Dillbag]
strat Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/30/01
Posts: 4242
 Originally Posted By: Dillbag
Smike, you either have a highly underdeveloped sense of taste... which would explain why you drink the nasty left-over beer sometimes

Or... You don't know what coriander is...


More concerning- do Molly and Mary know that Smike knows how you taste?

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#28845 - 05/03/07 07:12 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: strat]
Smike Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 05/01/01
Posts: 3143
Loc: in your backyard
ummm...I only know what coriander umm cilantro tastes like out of all that thank you.

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#30804 - 07/04/07 05:12 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: nerdom]
paulraphael Offline
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Registered: 01/22/02
Posts: 321
Loc: New York, NY
 Originally Posted By: nerdom
East Face of Teewinot, Owen Spaulding route on the Grand (one well-protected 5.4 move) are a couple. Though the CMC Route is a great choice, because the bivy setting is awesome, the approach way cool (via canoe), the sheer size of Moran is awe-inspiring, and the crowds are low. Heading back to Moran (and other Tetons objectives) myself in July if all goes well!


I would say the exum ridge on the grand. Much more sustained technical climbing than the owen spaulding; a lot of scrambling mixed with roped pitches. It's 5.4, but a gunks climber would probably call it 5.3. Big crowds (guided parties, etc.) but not much rockfall danger til the descent.

The east face of teewinot is close to as much fun as I've ever had in a day, but it's all scrambling. Haven't done the CMC yet but look forward to it as a great adventure (canoe portage might be the crux ...)

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#31483 - 07/25/07 12:26 AM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: paulraphael]
intrepid02 Offline
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Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 1421
Loc: Boulder
I'd second the Exum Ridge reccomendation, but it's a VERY long hike in. I've done it twice now and swore to myself I wouldn't do it again unless I was gonna stay for a few days and do a couple other climbs as well.

Also, the 3rd Flat Iron is phenomenal. I've probably done it more than 8 times in the last 2 years, and I'm going to do it again tomorrow morning with 2 beginners. Excellent climbing, terrific scenery, and easy access. If you are going to come out here and do that, then you may as well also do the 1st flat iron (a lot longer and a little harder) and maybe something up in the Park too.

If anyone wants to come out and do the 3rd (or first or whatever) feel free to contact me for beta and/or a place to stay.

Another fun thing about the 3rd Flat Iron is that you can do it at night if there is a big moon out. I haven't done that yet, but I'm hoping to do it this week if my plan comes together.

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#31510 - 07/25/07 05:06 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: intrepid02]
Brotch Offline
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Registered: 04/23/04
Posts: 23
The 2nd flat is nice outing as well - can be anywhere from 4th class to easy 5th and is a nice 'free solo'.

Nice way to spend a couple hours. Gonna be out there in August!!!

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#31576 - 07/27/07 02:12 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: Brotch]
Chas Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/22/01
Posts: 1754
Loc: Flagstaff
The hike into the Grand is about 7 miles uphill. Its long but not too bad, and can easily be done in a day (two years ago I did 4 routesin 4 days but I had to be back before dinner on each of the days. They are long days but no big deal).

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#31609 - 07/27/07 07:01 PM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: Chas]
paulraphael Offline
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Registered: 01/22/02
Posts: 321
Loc: New York, NY
It's only 7 miles or so, but to the top of the lower saddle (still below the first pitches of the upper exum or owen spalding) it's 5000 vertical feet, over half of which you gain in the last couple of miles, and much of which is on rocks ... everything from scree to boulders.

Anyone can do it, but unless you're really well trained for this kind of thing the approach by itself is a big day.

And for me, the crux of anything on the grand is the descent. A thousand feet of downclimbing the O.S. route, followed by 6000 vertical feet of hiking and scrambling, much of it pounding down those rocks ...

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#31631 - 07/28/07 02:31 AM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: paulraphael]
chip Offline
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Registered: 10/06/01
Posts: 2675
Loc: Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
I'll back up the approaches to anything in the Tetons, and especially the Grand, are big and can be huge.

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#31632 - 07/28/07 04:13 AM Re: 1000+ feet of 5.3? [Re: chip]
MarcC Offline
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Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 3532
 Originally Posted By: chip
I'll back up the approaches to anything in the Tetons, and especially the Grand, are big and can be huge.

What he said. Don't think of the Tetons as an alpine rock climbing area. Instead, any climbing in the Tetons means basically a huge ass hike and/or backpack/bivi with some climbing thrown in during the middle portion. IOW, the Tetons is mountaineering, not rock climbing.If you want alpine rock climbing, go to RMNP.
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