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#30954 - 07/10/07 12:20 PM The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver
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Ok, driving on the thruway, doing 80mph and a mini van comes screaming up behind me doing at least 90mph, probably faster, I get in the right lane to let it pass and it has a ton of outward signs of religious affliation all over it. Crosses, fish, bumper stickers, etc.

My first thought was, how hypocritical, that person is going to alot of trouble to proclaim to the world how deeply religious they are, yet they seem very willing to break the law willy nilly. Many people I know disagree, so:

1. What are outward religious symbols really saying to the world, (I am a moral person, I belong to a certain church, etc)

2. Does speeding really make someone guilty of some moral crime.

3. Why do people decorate their cars with signs of who they are as a person, to be blasted out to the world at 60mph.

I don't know, not only was I bored that day driving, I'm a little bored at work today also.

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#30955 - 07/10/07 12:57 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: mgs]
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Perhaps the driver had borrowed the van from a generous friend.

But assuming you observed the rightful owner/driver, there is a very strong message conveyed here:

"If I die in a mangled, fiery wreck, I'm going to heaven."

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#30985 - 07/10/07 06:49 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: RAF]
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You doing 80 and him 90 sounds a bit of the pot calling the kettle black to me. Who is the bigger idiot? the guy doing 90 in a 55-65 zone, or the guy doing 80 in the 55-65 zone wondering why there is a bigger knucklehead out there than him?

Maybe it is a sign from God for you to slow the heck down.

If I was Jesus I would drive a minivan.

Climer

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#30988 - 07/10/07 07:09 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: Climer]
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In most conditions:
Our last minivan was very controllable at 75
My Sub is very controllable past the two digit range.

My first thought when I read "I bored that day driving" was drive faster!

I didn't write it though cause then then I realized you're already going 80. I think highway driving is a bit like climbing. People participate at a level they feel is safe. Where speed is concerned it varies widely.

Laws are another issue all together.

That said I think that before regular use of distracting devices while driving, bored drivers were among the most dangerous of "normal" drivers - meaning those not intoxicated in any way or plainly tired.


Edited by mworking (07/10/07 07:43 PM)

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#31008 - 07/11/07 12:41 AM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: mworking]
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If I was Jesus I would drive a minivan.


Dunno about that one... I bet Jesus would walk, or ride a bike... And use a hybrid if there was a necessity to drive...

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#31014 - 07/11/07 01:23 AM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: Dillbag]
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 Originally Posted By: Dillbag
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If I was Jesus I would drive a minivan.


Dunno about that one... I bet Jesus would walk, or ride a bike... And use a hybrid if there was a necessity to drive...

(Catholic HS taught me something!)


All depends on which Jesus you believe in.

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#31019 - 07/11/07 02:22 AM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: Climer]
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 Originally Posted By: Climer
You doing 80 and him 90 sounds a bit of the pot calling the kettle black to me. Who is the bigger idiot? the guy doing 90 in a 55-65 zone, or the guy doing 80 in the 55-65 zone wondering why there is a bigger knucklehead out there than him?

Maybe it is a sign from God for you to slow the heck down.

If I was Jesus I would drive a minivan.

Climer


WWJD = What Would Jesus Drive?

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#31031 - 07/11/07 12:24 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: mgs]
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3. Why do people decorate their cars...?

Because I think lots of people are proud of being part of a "scene" and flashing stickers like "NEICE" of "GUNX" or "PETZL" or "MF" or "Jesus Saves" lets them announce to the entire world that they are cool and part of that scene.

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#31032 - 07/11/07 01:14 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: strat]
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Hey I resemble that remark!! \:o
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#31033 - 07/11/07 01:15 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: d-elvis]
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Being cool and part of a scene may be a motive for some, but not many people will recognize "NEICE" of "GUNX" or "PETZL" or "MF". So I doubt that the owners of cars with those stickers get much response.

While my car is sticker free, I have and had fun talking with climbers and water skiers who I identified by the stickers on their car. I don’t think it’s such a terrible thing.

“Jesus Saves” advertisements are sometimes recruiting devices.

Youngsters who put stickers on their parents cars often put little thought into what they are doing or what the sticker means.

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#31035 - 07/11/07 01:25 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: Climer]
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 Originally Posted By: Climer
You doing 80 and him 90 sounds a bit of the pot calling the kettle black to me. Who is the bigger idiot? the guy doing 90 in a 55-65 zone, or the guy doing 80 in the 55-65 zone wondering why there is a bigger knucklehead out there than him?

Maybe it is a sign from God for you to slow the heck down.

If I was Jesus I would drive a minivan.

Climer


But I don't have my car decorated with paraphanelia identifying myself as part of a group that has at it's core a lifestyle of ethics and morality. The point can be made that driving on someones bumper at high speed and then passing them at an even higher speed is not only unethical (putting lives in danger) but is undoubtedly against the law of the society that person chooses to live in.

Those stickers are not there for the person in the car, they can't even see them. They are not there for God, God already knows what is in their heart. They are there for the rest of the world to see. It is kind of like putting on a uniform for that group. In some organizations wearing the uniform holds you to a higher standard.

If the rangers at the Trapps (wearing a uniform) were seen to be littering, trundling rocks down the talus slope on a busy day, killing snakes, we would expect more of them. They are identified with a group who's express purpose is against that.

My driving in this instance is not the point, everyone who's ever driven with me knows I'm a shitty driver, my point is, by putting outward signs of group affiliation all over your car, are you expected to uphold the ideals of that group while driving. Is it worse that you do things other people do, who don't have their car decorated.

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#31036 - 07/11/07 01:31 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: mworking]
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Dude, being part of the scene means that other people in the scene know you're part of the scene.

And, you must have some bad feelings about being part of the scene and enjoying being part of a scene, otherwise, why would you take a defensive tone against my post, which was not stating whether I think it is a good thing or a bad thing to have stickers on your car!

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#31042 - 07/11/07 01:48 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: strat]
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 Originally Posted By: strat
And, you must have some bad feelings about being part of the scene and enjoying being part of a scene, otherwise, why would you take a defensive tone against my post, which was not stating whether I think it is a good thing or a bad thing to have stickers on your car!

...that is one hell of a sentance! Nice one!
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#31051 - 07/11/07 03:06 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: mgs]
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by putting outward signs of group affiliation all over your car, are you expected to uphold the ideals of that group while driving. Is it worse that you do things other people do, who don't have their car decorated.


That’s a load of B.S and you know it. If you think that people are going to modify their behavor based on a sticker they slap on their car, you're smoking crack.

Simply put, if all that it takes to become a member is throw down $1.75 for a sticker, then don’t have high hopes on the qualification process.


Edited by Smike (07/11/07 04:07 PM)

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#31068 - 07/11/07 06:30 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: Smike]
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 Originally Posted By: Smike
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by putting outward signs of group affiliation all over your car, are you expected to uphold the ideals of that group while driving. Is it worse that you do things other people do, who don't have their car decorated.


That’s a load of B.S and you know it. If you think that people are going to modify their behavor based on a sticker they slap on their car, you're smoking crack.

Simply put, if all that it takes to become a member is throw down $1.75 for a sticker, then don’t have high hopes on the qualification process.

I'd argue that people don't "modify" behavior based on a sticker they slap on their car but rather you'd think they would have those qualities conveyed by the sticker prior to slapping it on. i.e. religious kook is probably a law abiding citizen. Let’s face it.. the scary looking guy in the truck with the Aryan Nation decals all over the bumper is probably a scary acting guy who was that way long before he slapped those stickers on.

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#31088 - 07/12/07 12:06 AM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: chazman]
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What is this person a member of? (or suffering from, as we have seen clear documented gear-a-oholic tendencies from this person)


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#31089 - 07/12/07 01:30 AM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: Dillbag]
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 Originally Posted By: Dillbag
 Originally Posted By: strat
And, you must have some bad feelings about being part of the scene and enjoying being part of a scene, otherwise, why would you take a defensive tone against my post, which was not stating whether I think it is a good thing or a bad thing to have stickers on your car!

...that is one hell of a sentance! Nice one!


What is a sentance?

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#31092 - 07/12/07 05:50 AM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: Smike]
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 Originally Posted By: Smike
What is this person a member of? (or suffering from, as we have seen clear documented gear-a-oholic tendencies from this person)

A member of the group that whines on the internet when all their gear is stolen when the car is broken into in a remote parking area. It just screams "There's a lot of good stuff to sell on eBay inside!".
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#31100 - 07/12/07 01:00 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: Smike]
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 Originally Posted By: Smike
What is this person a member of? (or suffering from, as we have seen clear documented gear-a-oholic tendencies from this person)



This is an insult...libelous... whose piece of $hit car is this?
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#31102 - 07/12/07 01:36 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: d-elvis]
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This is an insult...libelous... whose piece of $hit car is this?


Not sure but it did have a Pennsyltuckey plate, but the next time I see it in my driveway it’s getting towed. Of course LTL might want to scarp it for much needed parts....

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#31105 - 07/12/07 01:52 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: Smike]
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yea. there's a hot scarp market for car prats.
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#31106 - 07/12/07 01:55 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: empicard]
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If you are mocking smike, you must type it as follows:

yea. theirs a hot scarp marquet for car prats.

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#31109 - 07/12/07 03:20 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored dr [Re: Smike]
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[quote

Not sure but it did have a Pennsyltuckey plate, but the next time I see it in my driveway it’s getting towed. Of course LTL might want to scarp it for much needed parts.... [/quote]

towed? towed? actually the car is no more... donated to charity... see now you feel bad
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#32233 - 08/14/07 11:17 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: Climer]
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If I was Jesus I would drive a minivan.

I'd drive a Christler. \:D
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#35588 - 02/13/08 10:57 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: mworking]
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“Jesus Saves” advertisements are sometimes recruiting devices.



SINGAPORE — A cosmetics line that extolled the virtues of "Looking Good for Jesus" has been pulled from stores in Singapore after a number of complaints from shoppers, according to media reports Tuesday.

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#35599 - 02/14/08 05:04 PM Re: The wandering rambling thoughts of a bored driver [Re: oenophore]
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