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#37537 - 06/03/08 12:29 AM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: yellowhouse]
Tim Offline
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Registered: 06/02/08
Posts: 3
I am very surprised how many people judged without having all the information. I was in the party of three on the ledge that rescued the girl. She was hanging over the roof and was on a path to total panic. She was dangling in thin air and could not climb over the roof. We tried to get the leader to lower her down to the ledge but there was no response. After several minutes we were not confident the leader could handle the situation at hand. Our lead climber ascended to the roof with our second rope and setup and anchor. He put the rope through the anchor, which was slightly above her waist. She was close enough to grab our rope and tie in using a figure 8 knot. Then I put on her on belay. With the rope tight her feet were about a foot or so from the cliff. Still we heard nothing from her leader. Therefore we suggested she cut the rope and when she did she landed softly on to the cliff as if on a top rope. Then I lowered to the ledge. We got her safely to the repel station and got her down to the ground safely.

The lesson here is not to have inexperienced climbers cowtailed together 15 feet apart on any climb, let alone one like HE. From the moment they started the climb we all thought they could easily get into trouble.

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#37539 - 06/03/08 01:14 AM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: Tim]
fear Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 06/27/03
Posts: 221
Loc: New England
Thanks for posting Tim,

I figured it wasn't as dramatic as some made it out to be....

Although if you're ever in a situation again like that with someone who's truly lost their minds(fear/panic, hypothermia, etc), it's better to do as much as you can for them like tying the knot and cutting the rope for her if at all possible. Wigged-out people can do really strange things...

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#37544 - 06/03/08 12:40 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: fear]
Smike Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 05/01/01
Posts: 3143
Loc: in your backyard
Thanks for telling your side. I have to admit (just going by your words) that giving someone that was on a "path to total panic" a knife is pretty nuts, but that’s all Monday morning QB’ing.

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#37547 - 06/03/08 02:56 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: Smike]
GOclimb Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 2359
Loc: Boston
Thanks for posting.

GO

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#37551 - 06/03/08 05:54 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: Tim]
BrianRI Offline
newbie

Registered: 06/10/05
Posts: 29
 Originally Posted By: Tim
I am very surprised how many people judged without having all the information.


You are surprised by how many people judged without having all the information? Second guessing and Monday morning quarterbacking by people who were not there and do not have all (if any) of the facts is the standard operating procedure of climbing forums. You should be surprised if no one injected their uninformed coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Brian

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#37553 - 06/03/08 06:15 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: RangerRob]
d-elvis Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/26/00
Posts: 3650
Loc: Central PA
I heard it was smike screaming like a little girl.... just saying \:o
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#37557 - 06/03/08 07:00 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: d-elvis]
Smike Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 05/01/01
Posts: 3143
Loc: in your backyard
Um hey d-bag, just be lucky no one had a knife when you were in the same spot ... ;\)

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#37559 - 06/03/08 07:07 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: Smike]
Dillbag Offline
old hand

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 1130
Loc: "The Town"
Uh, I'm the D-bag! Not that "Elvis" character!
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#37560 - 06/03/08 07:34 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: Dillbag]
Smike Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 05/01/01
Posts: 3143
Loc: in your backyard
 Originally Posted By: Dillbag
Uh, I'm the D-bag! Not that "Elvis" character!


All depends on what the 'D' stands for douche....

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#37565 - 06/03/08 09:31 PM Re: Screaming Girl/High E/Cut Rope [Re: Smike]
Dillbag Offline
old hand

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 1130
Loc: "The Town"
...what's the 'S' stand for?
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