"Minnewaska has single biggest piece of closed climbable terrain in Noeth America"?? As quoted from the ClimbNYC website. I think someone should do a little fact checking before making such bold statements. There is NOT that much climbable rock in Minnewaska. Most of it is shiite. The quality stuff is what is already known. Add it all together, and I bet it doesn;t amount to more than half of the Nears. Hell, West Point has more climbable terrain, and that is totally off limits. What about the Palisades?? Come on dude, I haven't even left new York/New Jersey yet and I have found two examples to prove how absurd that statement was.