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#41946 - 11/24/08 10:25 PM
Re: Rosendale Cave CLOSED TO CLIMBING
[Re: Kent]
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enthusiast
Registered: 04/19/04
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Kent, If said 25 acre property were subdividable at such a profit, why wasn't it done before the law changed? If the landowner didn't subdivide it, that would indicate, on the face of it, that either it wasn't profitable to do so, or that the landowner preferred to own that land anyway and was indifferent to any value, or loss of value, that might be ascribed to subdividing that land or not.
Also, if you're talking creating a subdivided lot on a sloping talus field, that sounds like a construction minefield to my uneducated mind. Wouldn't such a lot have far less value than average given the difficulty of building on that terrain?
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#41947 - 11/24/08 10:35 PM
Re: Rosendale Cave CLOSED TO CLIMBING
[Re: tradjunkie]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 10/06/01
Posts: 2652
Loc: Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
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#41948 - 11/24/08 11:14 PM
Re: Rosendale Cave CLOSED TO CLIMBING
[Re: tradjunkie]
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old hand
Registered: 01/21/00
Posts: 1004
Loc: The Bayards
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If said 25 acre property were subdividable at such a profit, why wasn't it done before the law changed? If the landowner didn't subdivide it, that would indicate, on the face of it, that either it wasn't profitable to do so, or that the landowner preferred to own that land anyway and was indifferent to any value, or loss of value, that might be ascribed to subdividing that land or not. Every landowner is different as is every lot. This landowner's plan was to keep the land and sell it when he needed it for his retirement. Also, if you're talking creating a subdivided lot on a sloping talus field, that sounds like a construction minefield to my uneducated mind. Wouldn't such a lot have far less value than average given the difficulty of building on that terrain? The particular lot I am referring to has no talus on it and it doesn't slope very much either. It's very buildable.
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#41949 - 11/24/08 11:49 PM
Re: Rosendale Cave CLOSED TO CLIMBING
[Re: tradjunkie]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 2345
Loc: Boston
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Kent, If said 25 acre property were subdividable at such a profit, why wasn't it done before the law changed? If the landowner didn't subdivide it, that would indicate, on the face of it, that either it wasn't profitable to do so, or that the landowner preferred to own that land anyway and was indifferent to any value, or loss of value, that might be ascribed to subdividing that land or not. What a ridiculous argument. If I'd rather save my money than spend it, should someone else be able to make the argument that "he's not using it, so he clearly doesn't want it?" GO
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#42024 - 11/27/08 06:18 PM
Re: Rosendale Cave CLOSED TO CLIMBING
[Re: RangerRob]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/10/00
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Christ...I guess I have to be blunt and just say it. Die thread....DIE!!!! If you're that aggravated by the thread, why do you keep posting to it? No one is forcing you to read or reply here. I really don't see the point of these seagull posts. (Meaning, fly in, leave a pile of crap, and fly away.)
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#62023 - 12/19/11 04:06 PM
Re: Rosendale Cave CLOSED TO CLIMBING
[Re: Eddie]
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veteran
Registered: 12/23/99
Posts: 1446
Loc: NP. NY
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to make matters worse one line is bolted through a VERY VERY unstable formation! So we also have a stupid bolter who bolted a SUPER dangerous line!
hello again. good news, the climbers respected my wishes from what i could tell. thank you. but as an update the climbing route i was talking about did in fact fall to the earth. as i noted above it was a really shitty place for an anchor. i am not sure when the rock broke off, as i do not go in there often, but it has fallen. i am glad no one was injured. but for those who think i am crazy. and those that know i am crazy  . please note i was right in it being a very dangerous place to put an anchor. photo.net photos here. (click teh images to make em bigger) eddie
Edited by Eddie (12/19/11 04:07 PM)
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