HOLY SHIT PEOPLE!!!! For Christs sake either use them or don't use them, then get over it! go climb something

NICE corpo speak from Metolius! TL;DR

Well, it hella beats the responses from CCH (which were another nail in their coffin).

Thanks for posting that, Ian.

Scott and I have been using C3s, and they have their pros and cons. After discussion here about ranges, I picked up a blue Metolius mastercam(?) that most closely matches the green alien, and am really really liking it.

Q, I think the issue with the non-clamped plates was that the trigger bar itself got caught up on the plate, causing the lobe retraction. That's a danger for pretty much any cam.

Aric - I must have mis-remembered something you'd posted a while back about being a stay-at-home dad without the kid but expecting that to change soon. Sorry if I inferred an impending incoming!

Umm, no. Show me another cam where that can happen. Trigger design on Master Cam is very different from anything else I've ever seen.

you're right - I was just watching those videos again (need more coffee, too). Hrm. It's much clearer in the second one - in the first one, it could have been a result of leverage from the trigger bar.

Thank you, Rob. Your response was cogent and appropriate and in keeping with your previous posts. The man has spoken. Of course, the continuation of this thread has been a useful diversion from actual work, which I would miss.

It certainly does despite what I am about to write!



BS: NO! Manufactures are welcome to respond I will write Metolius today of how disapointing this response is.



Whoa. What? Isn't that exactly what cams are supposed to be best at - assuming the crack isn't a breakable flake? Yeah I know that's the expandable kind, still?

Aric - thank you for the additional info, it is appreciated and I look forward to your further efforts.

Julie's earlier post was my source about your non-new addition, which reinforces why we should be careful about secondary sources, albeit on a much less dangerous issue (unless your wife read the post and got the wrong idea)

and the metolius thread, which I havent followed closely, reinforces why some people will continue to value controlled testing done properly as part of our decision process

what is the over/under for aliens at the swap on sunday?

No worries Julie, as you are right in a sense... we're looking to adopt and are currently waiting to be matched, so there is a baby in the pipeline somewhere. :-)

-a.

Anytime Chip