Too bad the U.S. didn't have more civilized, English-type access laws, so we could avoid the squawking from lord-of-the manor types.
GCC may have its head up the a** of local land managers, who have their heads up the a** of local to-the-manor-born types, bird-watching zillionaire board members, gentlemen climbers, etc., (all of whom Spatz once described to me, in zombie zoning board staff-speak, as "stakeholders") --- none of whom put a priority on the interests of the poor, dumb-a** non-resident climber scum.
Good evening, Pizzaman,
Having never recalled using the word "stakeholders" in conversation or in print, I'd would be pleased to learn otherwise. If I remember correctly, you did take exception to my use of "mitigation" regarding efforts to remind users of the MUA to follow the posted rules.
Since the GCC has a long record of supporting efforts to keep the MUA open, including offering to pay for port-a-johns, doing trail and campsite maintenance, and reminding climbers that responsible stewardship of the MUA is the best defense against the campground's closure, I'm not sure how this could be construed as bowing to monied interests or not advocating on behalf of average climbers, as I explained at the end of this thread:
http://gunks.com/ubbthreads7/ubbthreads.php/topics/29447/MUA_camping#Post29447Regarding your paraphrase of my response to your offer, if again I remember correctly, we had several people, including myself, entrusted to the work. I thanked you for your generous offer, courteously, since even with those I disagree I rarely find the need to respond otherwise (I think Kent would agree), but had to respectfully decline the offer. Though I do remember attempting to make light of several personas, including the bureaucrat, I can lapse into depending on the situation, I apologize if you found my exchange with you offensive. That's certainly never my intention in any such exchange, especially one in which a donated service was being offered.
What any of this has to do with an unrelated poem that appeared in the FOS newsletter, wherever it happened to be placed, is beyond me. The newsletter has been a terrific outlet for every Gunks-related subject and concern I wish to raise, from challenging the usage, translation, and origins of Shawangunk, to bat, coyote, and cougar essays, to questioning the efficacy of targeted deer hunts on our degrading understory (what we really need are big predators). It's the best single outlet to reach insiders on Gunks minutia, and I'm grateful that they continue to provide a forum for me, though I've never been a member.
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