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#45029 - 05/27/09 05:59 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: redtag]
talus Offline
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Originally Posted By: redtag

actually as opposed to what you say, all of the other people/methods i mentioned earlier were put forth by people with credentials, based on existing knowledge and experience in a variety of related fields and endeavors


those people you mentioned RT have NO credentials just a bunch of weenies that write a How To book.

if you want credentials for pbaordon i can say he is one strong mofo
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#45057 - 05/27/09 10:35 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: paborden]
redtag Offline
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Registered: 06/26/07
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so you choose not to provide any information, credentials, or justification of your cryptic and rather hypocritical comments other than "its calculated" - so you're just trying to sell people on some bullshit to make a buck??? or what???

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#45060 - 05/27/09 11:16 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: redtag]
dalguard Offline
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Registered: 03/22/00
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I thought he was offering the opportunity to try a new program for free, be a guinea pig in other words. I'm not clear on why this is so horrible.

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#45062 - 05/27/09 11:37 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: dalguard]
redtag Offline
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Registered: 06/26/07
Posts: 98
its not. but why all the cloak and dagger garbage?

happy to answer questions but he wont
wants to let people know about it but wont say anything about it
the internet is appropriate but its not
money isnt the only thing - time is important too
i asked some legit questions

same sales pitch used by any number of different self-help books, videos, counselors, websites etc, not to mention a dozen different cults, religions, ponzi and pyramid schemes...

why not give some more information. i want volunteers but wont tell you anything else is sort of a weak pitch in any game.

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#45063 - 05/27/09 11:40 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: talus]
redtag Offline
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Registered: 06/26/07
Posts: 98
and talus each of those people have a variety of training, a list of accomplishments and have produced results - i didnt ask for degrees or certificates or other embossed pieces of acid-free paper...i asked for a reason why someone should listen to him

you gave one reason - he could have easily said the same - "i follow this program and i'm one strong motherfucker" - that would be a good start

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#45070 - 05/28/09 03:05 AM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: paborden]
Jgreene Offline
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Registered: 07/17/08
Posts: 171
RangerRob,

Case in point, it's like you just read the beer taps man, try actually ordering one.... IT"S KOSTRITZER DUMB ASS. anyway just stick to ice water, it will be better in the long run with those 5.11's your working on.

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#45080 - 05/28/09 01:17 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: Jgreene]
RangerRob Offline
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Registered: 06/06/00
Posts: 3765
Loc: Ulster County, NY
take away one of the 1's in that number dude. Sounds like you're spending waaaaay too much time at the Brau eyeing other people. Can you spell c-r-e-ep-y? Please don't tell me I have a stalker

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#45082 - 05/28/09 01:25 PM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing harder [Re: paborden]
Allenperry Offline
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Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 195
Loc: Reading, Pennsylvania
Originally Posted By: paborden
I'm currently refining the nuts and bolts of a mental training product for climbers


Peter,

Tell me, did you first come up with this idea after you saw me down-climb from high in the off-width on Inverted Layback 6 years ago? eek
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#45112 - 05/29/09 02:16 AM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing harder [Re: Allenperry]
dalguard Offline
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I think it's pretty common for a product to be kept under wraps until it's ready for release.

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#45117 - 05/29/09 03:15 AM Re: Looking for climbers interested in climbing ha [Re: redtag]
core Offline
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Registered: 06/25/07
Posts: 204
redtag...beware, the route on the cover of "How to Climb 5.12" is actually a 5.11. wink

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