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#48687 - 10/15/09 06:37 PM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: oenophore]
quanto_the_mad Offline
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Registered: 05/14/02
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Loc: brooklyn
For a business that already has insurance coverage, that can get employees to volunteer on their own time, it's free advertising.

For the GCC? To have to buy insurance for the two year commitment... if the GCC were flush with funds, maybe. But assuming limited funds, I would think that the money (and manpower) be better spent on other goals such as the waterworks project. Maybe a sign would engender good will towards the GCC and increased donations. Maybe not, I have no idea what the CBA results would show.

Really, there's nothing stopping anyone from forming a group on their own and raising funds to do the work.
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#48695 - 10/15/09 09:15 PM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: quanto_the_mad]
MarcC Offline
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Some lunchtime googling revealed that virtually all of the 49 states that have an Adopt-a-highway program require liability insurance. So what do volunteer organizations do? They contract out the actual highway clean-up work to landscaping companies, then hold a fund-raising party of some sort to pay the landscaper.

Last weekend, we had this event. Yes, it cost to participate and it wasn't directly a fund raiser, but it certainly raised the visibility of the SLCA:

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Craggin' Classic 2009
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When: Oct 9, 2009 - Oct 11, 2009

Where: Salt Lake City, UT

This year's annual AAC Craggin Classic will be held in Salt Lake City, UT, October 9-11th.

The venue will be located in the beautiful Big Cottonwood canyon where there's cool camping and hundreds of climbing routes. With the help of the Salt Lake Climber's Coalition and the strong score of local climbers, this year's event promises to be bigger, better and more productive than ever before.

Craggin'Classic SLC schedule

Friday, October 9th

3-6pm-Registration open, vendor venue open

6-7pm-Happy Hour with kegs and Redwood Creek wine tasting

7pm-Petzl and Mountain Khaki sponsored Tandoor Grill Dinner served at Spruces by SLCA members and Petzl athletes

8pm-Introductions by AAC and SLCA. Slideshows follow: Steve House, Andrew Burr and Brian Smoot

3pm-midnight-Located in the Log Cabin Hooka Lounge: Highland Games, Open Mike DJ, Poker Championships (this will run all weekend with the champions being announced on Sunday afternoon).

Saturday, October 10th

8-9-Tulie Bakery breakfast sponsored by The North Face

9-5-CLIMBING-Join us for Sessions with the Pros, a fun day at the SLC crags with renowned professional climbers Lynn Hill, Steve House, Cedar Wright, Caroline George, Jasmine Canton, Kate Rutherford, Mikey Shaefer and Jim Donini. The pros will host a handful of eclectic sessions sure to boost your skills, including Sport Climbing for Boulderers, Trad Climbing for Sport Climbers, Bouldering for Weaklings, Ice Climbing for Climbers Who Are Not Old Or Out Of Shape and Donini's Old Man's Guide To Climbing 5.12 (unofficially sponsored by the AARP). There will also be Locals Only Tours led by an all-star cast of SLC underground super locals who know every nook, cranny and crimp in the Wasatch (ever wonder where those secret spots, pimper bouldering circuits, five-star routes and no-star routes are in the canyons? Follow the locs, they know).

4-6 Yoga

5pm-Vendor venue open, Booth Happy hour

5-9-Silent Auction

5-9 AAC Taco Cart Abierto

Black Diamond Party

Live music by Black Diamond's own Use As Is and Salt Lake City's Tolchock Trio.

Sunday, October 11

9-4 AAC's N. Rockies Section sponsored breakfast and Service Project Day with SLCA

7-11 Film Festival and Billiard Championships at Brewvies


Also, the SLCA is pursuing a paid membership program:
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Membership

For the past seven years, the Salt Lake Climbers' Alliance has been Northern Utah's leading force in sustaining local climbing resources. To help the SLCA continue and expand its work to promote climbing opportunities, preserve local access and encourage stewardship of the environment, please consider becoming a supporting member.

What has the SLCA done for Salt Lake's climbing community since 2002?

* Served as advocate for local climbers with land managers and other stake holders
* In partnership with the American Safe Climbing Association we have helped replace old, worn-out bolts throughout the Wasatch
* Annual SLCA Days: community-building comps, parties and fundraisers
* Adopt-a-Crag Days:
o American Fork Canyon: Division Wall, the Membrane and the Hell Cave trail and crag improvements
o Little Cottonwood Canyon: trail mapping and plant survey, trash clean-up, bouldering area improvement, bridge to The Great White Icicle, new trail to the Egg and graffiti removal throughout the canyon
o Ferguson Canyon: trail and crag improvement
o Big Cottonwood Canyon: Slips Crag restoration and trail improvement
o Pete's Rock: clean-up and graffiti removal
o Maple Canyon: Pipe Dream cave improvement, bridge to Pipeline Wall
* Seasonal installation of toilets in Joe's Valley

Why is the SLCA pursuing a paid membership program?

* To increase the number and scope of events, projects, re-bolting, communications, networking and long-term planning for trails and other access issues.
* To provide needed resources to address the many land management challenges facing our climbing areas.
* If the Salt Lake Climbers' Alliance is transformed into a group with formal membership, climbers will have a much stronger voice in issues that impact climbing access.

Please consider becoming a member of the Salt Lake Climbers' Alliance today. It only takes a few minutes and you'll become instrumental in supporting climbing access and opportunities in the Salt Lake Valley and beyond.

Annual Membership Fee: $25.00 (The SLCA is a 501 (c)(3) nonprofit organization. Your entire donation is tax deductible.)
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#48700 - 10/15/09 10:37 PM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: MarcC]
quanto_the_mad Offline
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In that case, there's really no volunteering, is there? And I thought that was the point.
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#48701 - 10/15/09 10:51 PM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: quanto_the_mad]
oenophore Online   confused
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Don't you think that roadside cleanup is best done by convicts?
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#48702 - 10/15/09 10:52 PM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: quanto_the_mad]
MarcC Offline
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Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 3532
It all depends on the insurance situation as to how viable it is to have actual volunteers doing the clean up. For a business and even many organizations, including non-profits, it's not an issue. California requires a minimum of $3M in liability coverage in order to obtain the highway work permit.
I only know what I found via the oracle of google.

Arguably, if the GCC is sponsoring things like Adopt-a-crag, trail crews, chalk cleanups, etc., then they probably should have liability insurance. Without it, depending on how the GCC incorporated itself, a volunteer who gets their leg crushed on a GCC-sponsored trail crew, might be able to successfully sue the individual board members to recover medical costs.
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#48711 - 10/16/09 12:25 AM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: MarcC]
RangerRob Offline
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Registered: 06/06/00
Posts: 3765
Loc: Ulster County, NY
Oeno, they prefer to be called inmates..not convicts. Let's be politically correct here, okay?

Hey maybe instead of doing boulder chalk cleanups every year, we could concentrate our efforts on teaching boulderers not to slather chalk on holds with toothbrushes instead. Is it really necessary to dip your toothbrush into your loose chalkbag, and then rub it all over each hold of the problem obssesively for 10 minutes before you try to send? C'mon...a little restraint on the chalk addiction can go a long way man.

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#48717 - 10/16/09 01:36 AM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: RangerRob]
Ralph Offline
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Registered: 02/01/07
Posts: 141
Sorry Rob. No boulder cleanup this year.
The young fella who did the grunt work for that event has moved to greener pastures (or pebbles). Lucander says his own involvement was limited to issuing communiques and being liaison to the Preserve for the event.

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#48718 - 10/16/09 01:42 AM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: RangerRob]
MarcC Offline
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Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 3532
Originally Posted By: RangerRob
Hey maybe instead of doing boulder chalk cleanups every year, we could concentrate our efforts on teaching boulderers not to slather chalk on holds with toothbrushes instead.

Exactly. What's the point of doing an annual clean-up of the same holds on the same pebbles, year after year?
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#48722 - 10/16/09 03:28 AM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: MarcC]
Jannette Offline

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Registered: 10/03/00
Posts: 2225
Loc: Gardiner, NY
Terrie, your dedication to helping the climbing environment and the climbing community is much appreciated. I always see you working hard on the trail crew and at cleanups and other volunteer events. You set a very good example and I look forward to your participation whenever you can manage it. Major kudos to you.
I encourage everyone to give Terrie virtual hugs and handshakes for her years of work for the climbing community.

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#48726 - 10/16/09 10:24 AM Re: No Peterskill Cleanup/Pamcake Breakfast? [Re: RangerRob]
oenophore Online   confused
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Oeno, they prefer to be called inmates..not convicts. Let's be politically correct here, okay?

Bullshit! One is an inmate because of conviction of a crime -- hence a convict. Read the Thirteenth Amendment to the US Constitution and find that the slavery prohibition makes an exception for convicts.

(Apologies to other posters for our digression.)
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