I didn't mean that RP weren't good or shouldn't be someone's favorite. I only meant that there are so many alternatives out there now that any single one could go without giving us real problem. Look at DMM's offering alone!

DMM is making both the old HB offsets, as well as RP's
They are calling the new RP's "IMP's." Both the IMP's and the HB offsets look like they are made from the same dies. You can buy both of them at Rock & Snow.
http://www.dmmclimbing.com/productsDetails.asp?pid=5&pid2=203

Interesting. I just noticed that the DMM offsets are different from the HB offsets offered by the Yos store; the DMM ones have a swage making the loop and a bare wire loop, while the Yos ones have a cheap plastic sleeve (which keeps sliding down) and coated loop.

ahhh the internet....

the yosemite shop only sells dmm stuff now. they're done with in-house production. the woman making them sold her rights to dmm when they tooled up (per conversations with the guys at the mtn shop)...

the ones she was making were pretty much identical to the old ones....but those are done now excepting whats already out there....

dmm pretty much just added a swage to the cable instead of the tubing.....some of the earlier dmm ones had the hb stamp on the head....using the old dies....new ones dont....but there is a small hb logo on the swage on the cable....not like any of that matters....

the small brass is pretty sweet....a mix of bd swedges....and a few other choice small bits help round things out a bit though in my opinion....hell better throw a cam hook or two in there as well....

the larger dmm offsets are pretty sweet in flaring cracks and pin scars....these nuts are pricey stuff....better get your partner to buy them...thats what i did

An ethics question: If your Sugar-Daddy/Momma partner buys the new gear do you have to buy the beer everytime you carry it?

nah

but its probably bad form to leave any behind...best practice those cleaning skills...though on the last climb i did with them i actually pulled out a booty offset thinking it was placed by my friend...booty for me....good stuff those offsets....