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#49147 - 11/02/09 03:32 AM Guess the Ice Route
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Well, I thought I'd give this a whirl, Guess the ice route!
Keep in mind anything that Mike R posts will be easy to Guess. I already claim credit for guessing his correctly, Moore's and more Moore's. And to RangerRob, sorry about cluttering up the ice discussion with ski talk, maybe this picture can serve as my way of saying, "I'm sorry" I'll keep it free of snow from now on.


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#49162 - 11/02/09 01:55 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Its the Catskills, Looking at the sun angle I'd guess something in the hillsides of Katterskill Falls?

Not much to go on.

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#49166 - 11/02/09 02:49 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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I think Smike has gleaned all I could as well.

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#49167 - 11/02/09 02:53 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: chip]
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sun angle? SUN ANGLE? WTF Sun Angle? I dont see a single defined shadow. just a black outline of a climber and a hill in the background.
WTF Katterskill Falls. got anything else to pull out of your arse?
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#49175 - 11/02/09 04:31 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: empicard]
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Yes, Kaaterskill Clove, I think you can see tree shadows on the hillside. Anyway, here are bigger hints...




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#49176 - 11/02/09 04:37 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: empicard]
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Evan, you're as good at reading a photo as you are a map.

That ridge in the background is getting full noon-ish sun (so given the suns aspect in winter it must be a hill side facing South East)

Also mts in the catskills have a generally flat top, with steep hillsides with a mix of confer trees on the steep parts


Edited by Smike (11/02/09 04:46 PM)

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#49177 - 11/02/09 04:42 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Nice, Gottlieb's roof (P1)

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WTF Katterskill Falls. got anything else to pull out of your arse?


Say again? smirk

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#49179 - 11/02/09 05:38 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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If this guess the ice route is going to work the pics need to give a bit more context. the characteristics of rock don't change, generally. Holds stay the same, color, shape and texture all contribute to us being able to recognize a rock route given a very small snapshot of the route. Ice I don't think will work that way. I think they need to be a bit wider and give the overall shape of the flow, the rock behind it, hillsides in the distance, tree types, etc.


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#49180 - 11/02/09 06:02 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: RangerRob]
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It might not work, but I'm bored, I have tendonitis and there is no snow or ice.

Gottlieb's Roof is Right!!!
Here's a pic from above...

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#49181 - 11/02/09 06:24 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: RangerRob]
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Originally Posted By: RangerRob
If this guess the ice route is going to work the pics need to give a bit more context.


Just because it didn't work for you, you have to dumb it down for the rest of us?

cfrac - Nice pics!

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#49187 - 11/02/09 07:41 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Yep, I do. You just happened to guess correctly! You have to admit, the picture above is a lot nicer to examine

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#49191 - 11/02/09 10:58 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: RangerRob]
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Originally Posted By: RangerRob
Yep, I do. You just happened to guess correctly! You have to admit, the picture above is a lot nicer to examine


Yes, the picture above is nicer to look at but I think that photo is too easy. OK, here's another one...oh yeah, Thanks Smike!


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#49194 - 11/02/09 11:06 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Oh man, too easy. I will not say this time,(Give someone else a chance) but it's just to the left of a super nice 110' pitch of moderate grade 4 ice (the last pitch of ... ) smirk

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#49195 - 11/02/09 11:24 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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How about Goldie Hawn? Yes, an obscure reference but does this climb have a real name?
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#49196 - 11/02/09 11:35 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Wildcat Falls?

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#49197 - 11/03/09 12:44 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Oh man, too easy. I will not say this time,(Give someone else a chance) but it


Agreed. Pretty obvious to anyone who's done it. Or at least to anyone who's done it more than once. Props for leading it!

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#49202 - 11/03/09 10:34 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Like I said, Goldie Hawn. After all, she was a football coach in the movie Wildcats and where does a coach stand? On the sidelines. Where is this climb? On the side(lines) of Wildcat. Pretty obvious.
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#49206 - 11/03/09 01:52 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Another fairly easy one:
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#49207 - 11/03/09 02:20 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Easy? Even the guidebook author admitted he never climbed this one. Flight 98.

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#49208 - 11/03/09 02:25 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Isn't it cheating if you were 5 feet away when the picture was taken?
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#49212 - 11/03/09 03:47 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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I'm new to this forum. Had no idea Pitfall was you, Harry.

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#49215 - 11/03/09 05:33 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Heh, that one (Flight 98) wasn't easy. I thought it might have been some unusual formation of a 2nd pitch in Stoney Clove, but the rock didn't look right.

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#49221 - 11/03/09 09:36 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Another:
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#49224 - 11/03/09 10:38 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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No comment, btw, its looks fat in that photo wink

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#49225 - 11/03/09 11:17 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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That's one of the corners on left side of Moore's right?
I mean Moore's, right?
By the way the Wildcat guess was right for any who were not sure, the left variation on the last pitch.
Flight 98 looks great, never did it. It looks like the right variation would be wild, thin to mixed back to hangers on the right!

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#49226 - 11/03/09 11:19 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Okay, so this is harder than I thought. When I figure out how to post a picture on here I will get some up.

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#49227 - 11/03/09 11:27 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: RangerRob]
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Looks like Moores, but I don't believe it is. Something closer to Chapel Pond, perhaps?

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#49228 - 11/03/09 11:32 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Chapel Pond area is correct, but what climb? Sorry for not sticking to the catskills. If you want to trek up to flight 98, have fun. I'm not going back...unless it's for something else in the general vicinity.
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#49229 - 11/03/09 11:33 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Laceration
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#49230 - 11/03/09 11:38 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Where's THIS?


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#49232 - 11/04/09 12:38 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Can't believe I missed that! Ice Slot Right!?
As for the next one, are we back at Moore's?

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#49233 - 11/04/09 01:01 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Is it the route we worked and Ryan S sent it the next season?

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#49234 - 11/04/09 02:18 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Aya got pitfalls, it was Laceration, just off the pond under the PE wall.

Here is an easy one:


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#49235 - 11/04/09 02:32 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Is it the route we worked and Ryan S sent it the next season?


Yup!

Here's another view of it.


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#49236 - 11/04/09 02:42 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Bottom of the HellHole? Man that looks delicious!

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#49240 - 11/04/09 10:09 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Hey smike, isn't that pitch called bridal veil falls?
Isn't that area called the hellitchen now? Not to be confused with the kitchasm of course.
I'll try to get a few more shots up when I get home.
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#49243 - 11/04/09 01:31 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Rawdon


Here's another view of it.


So did you have to stand back in the middle of the street to get all that in the frame?

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#49244 - 11/04/09 01:37 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Hey smike, isn't that pitch called bridal veil falls?
Isn't that area called the hellitchen now? Not to be confused with the kitchasm of course.


Bridal Veil it is. (and yes its in the 'middle' of the hell hole, as there is lots more below all that) And all those names are f-up now.

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#49245 - 11/04/09 03:09 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Okay, this one truly is easy:
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#49246 - 11/04/09 03:25 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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One more:
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#49247 - 11/04/09 03:37 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Pitfall's latest looks like the the Plattkill falls, just a bit upstream form Bridalveil.

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#49248 - 11/04/09 04:03 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: chip]
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WTF, is that a toprope? Way to small to be Plattkill falls. Looks like some junk near Albany.

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#49249 - 11/04/09 04:09 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Pitfall's second photo looks like Jeff's Wet Dream. No idea about the first one.

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#49250 - 11/04/09 04:22 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Jeff's Wet Dream it is.
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#49251 - 11/04/09 04:35 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Looks like some junk near Albany.

No Smike, this is some junk near Albany:
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#49252 - 11/04/09 04:48 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Wow, did you photoshop the de-bonded ice back onto the rotten black rock?

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#49253 - 11/04/09 04:54 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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How about this one:


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#49254 - 11/04/09 05:05 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Weeping Winds?

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#49255 - 11/04/09 05:54 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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The right side of Lions?
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#49257 - 11/04/09 07:08 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Bizzz and Bizzz.. Hint: in most years a Tree start is required, as was the case in this photo, as the bottom curtain is usually crap.

And the route is very foreshorten looking in this image.

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#49259 - 11/04/09 07:49 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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I usually avoid tree starts unless the route is the dead tree in the front yard.

Hey, this is fun, can I play too? How about this one in sweet condition:


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#49260 - 11/04/09 08:48 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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A little shaky cedar tree start?

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#49261 - 11/04/09 08:59 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: HR1]
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Buttermilk Tier 3, April 2007, after the rains

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#49263 - 11/04/09 10:01 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Yup, that's it, only it was March 8, 2009 -- too early for being that warm. Made the creek impossible to cross (almost) at least for the guys who spent the night out from the previous day.

That one was too easy, how about this:




Edited by HR1 (11/04/09 10:03 PM)

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#49265 - 11/04/09 10:10 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: HR1]
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Can we make a rule that the climb in question is higher then 25'? smirk

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#49266 - 11/04/09 10:12 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: strat]
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A little shaky cedar tree start?


Strat is onto to something... shaky even with my 140 pounds dripping wet, now when I looked down when you followed it...um...that poor tree.

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#49267 - 11/04/09 10:19 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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JW
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#49271 - 11/05/09 12:03 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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No one has gotten Smikes photo, I like the 25 ft rule and how about no new photos until someone correctly guesses the last one.
So Smike I don't know, is this something in the ADK backcountry?

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#49273 - 11/05/09 12:25 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Okay, this one truly is easy:

I thought someone would get this one right away. Here's a wider view. It HAS to be easy now:
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#49275 - 11/05/09 12:36 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Instant Karma?
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#49276 - 11/05/09 12:38 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Aya]
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You got it Aya.
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#49277 - 11/05/09 12:44 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Dude. 2 for 2. I ROCK!
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#49281 - 11/05/09 01:58 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: HR1]
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HR, that's Viola Falls, first pitch right side.

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#49282 - 11/05/09 02:02 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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No one has gotten Smikes photo, I like the 25 ft rule and how about no new photos until someone correctly guesses the last one.
So Smike I don't know, is this something in the ADK backcountry?


Probably one of those Rt 73 slabs, like Ahab or Spankys.

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#49284 - 11/05/09 02:35 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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JW


And we have a winner. One of the more ultra classic grade 3's in the Dacks. (well only if you use the tree)

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#49285 - 11/05/09 02:37 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Next:

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#49288 - 11/05/09 02:41 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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I dunno Smike, that's a rug, I mean a rough one. Nice pic too! Is that anyone we know?

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#49289 - 11/05/09 02:43 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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I dunno Smike, that's a rug, I mean a rough one. Nice pic too! Is that anyone we know?


I heard the guy in the pic wrote some ice and rock guides. smirk

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#49290 - 11/05/09 02:53 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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#49291 - 11/05/09 03:01 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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This should give you enough features to figure this one out:
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#49292 - 11/05/09 03:02 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Dunno, never seen that much ice on that one brother.
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#49293 - 11/05/09 03:02 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Edited by AOC (11/05/09 03:06 AM)

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#49294 - 11/05/09 03:05 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Geez, ain't this fun??!!

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#49295 - 11/05/09 03:08 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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I've seen too many of these pictures already to continue to "guess". Hint: AOC does love a long approach.
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#49296 - 11/05/09 03:26 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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I dunno Smike, that's a rug, I mean a rough one. Nice pic too! Is that anyone we know?


I heard the guy in the pic wrote some ice and rock guides. smirk


And wasn't he climbing with someone who wrote a rock guide, that day?
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#49297 - 11/05/09 03:31 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Aya]
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I heard the guy in the pic wrote some ice and rock guides. smirk


And wasn't he climbing with someone who wrote a rock guide, that day?


Rope-solo he was. I think that pic was from early dec 4 years ago?

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#49298 - 11/05/09 03:32 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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Originally Posted By: pitfall
This should give you enough features to figure this one out:


Hotshot

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#49299 - 11/05/09 03:35 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Rawdon
Next:



Big Brother in stupid fat conditions

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#49300 - 11/05/09 03:53 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Originally Posted By: Smike


I heard the guy in the pic wrote some ice and rock guides. smirk


And wasn't he climbing with someone who wrote a rock guide, that day?


Rope-solo he was. I think that pic was from early dec 4 years ago?


Oh ho. I seem to recall this past winter or maybe two years ago they did it and got kinda shut down trying to pull onto the ice or something...
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#49302 - 11/05/09 01:29 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Elk Pass? I'm way to lazy to make it out that way.

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#49305 - 11/05/09 02:50 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Elk Pass is right.

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#49306 - 11/05/09 02:57 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
Mike Rawdon Offline

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Big Brother is correct, but who you callin' stupid? :-)

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#49307 - 11/05/09 03:04 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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#49308 - 11/05/09 03:21 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Didn't you or brendan back off that last winter?
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#49309 - 11/05/09 04:04 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Aya]
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Originally Posted By: Aya
Didn't you or brendan back off that last winter?


Brendon did, then I was stupid enough to get on it, one of those climbs where going up with zero pro was safer then downclimbing after some point.

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#49317 - 11/05/09 05:50 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Since you didn't think that Viola falls (which are more than 25'BTW) were high enough, how about this one (center):


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#49320 - 11/05/09 06:22 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: HR1]
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Originally Posted By: HR1
Since you didn't think that Viola falls (which are more than 25'BTW) were high enough, how about this one (center):



Mr. Doolittle's Hotel in Deep Notch?

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#49323 - 11/05/09 07:03 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
chip Offline
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That entire mountain looks ready to calve off.

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#49324 - 11/05/09 07:06 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: HR1]
Smike Offline
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Originally Posted By: HR1
how about this one


A long up hill road to death?

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#49325 - 11/05/09 07:20 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
HR1 Offline
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We decided that the route was a just a bit out of condition for our liking.

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#49332 - 11/05/09 11:35 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: HR1]
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Weenies...what's a little 3,000' bergshrund gonna' do to you? crazy

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#49336 - 11/06/09 12:45 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOR]
RangerRob Offline
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Man I seriously suck at this game. Smikey, help me get some pics up here so I can smoke all your asses

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#49342 - 11/06/09 02:14 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Originally Posted By: Smike
Originally Posted By: Aya
Didn't you or brendan back off that last winter?

Brendon did, then I was stupid enough to get on it, one of those climbs where going up with zero pro was safer then downclimbing after some point.

Tillman's Mike?

I thought that way once:

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#49343 - 11/06/09 03:05 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: RangerRob]
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Originally Posted By: RangerRob
...so I can smoke all your asses



Rob? You smoke ass?
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#49346 - 11/06/09 03:28 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: empicard]
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#49347 - 11/06/09 03:54 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pedestrian]
Smike Offline
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Ok Hint, its just off Chapel Pond, and its not Tillmans.

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#49349 - 11/06/09 11:44 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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i think more than any other climb in chapel pond it's just off the pond
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#49355 - 11/06/09 01:18 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Aya]
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Yeah I can picture it, just can't remember the name.
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#49380 - 11/07/09 06:45 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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I never pictured it that fat: Haggis and Cold Toast.

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#49383 - 11/08/09 01:06 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: ChuckD]
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No, not haggis. ef, that guess. 2nd guess is right of lions. is that it?

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#49384 - 11/08/09 02:28 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: ChuckD]
Smike Offline
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another hint, its about 75 yards to the right od PowerPlay.

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#49385 - 11/08/09 03:01 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Pussyfoot?

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#49386 - 11/08/09 03:58 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pcooke]
strat Offline
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Knowing Smike's penchant for buggery and climbs to the right of PowerPlay, I'm going to go with Seldom Scene (Seen?)

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#49387 - 11/08/09 10:25 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: strat]
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Hey, it does look a lot like seldom scene! I was thinking of one of those climbs right off the pond to the left of PP. To use your word Sam, it's a delightful little climb.

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#49391 - 11/09/09 02:40 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: strat]
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Originally Posted By: strat
Knowing Smike's penchant for buggery and climbs to the right of PowerPlay, I'm going to go with Seldom Scene (Seen?)


Correcto!

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#49426 - 11/09/09 10:49 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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OK, have you seen this one? Where is it? It may have been a FA hence I don't know the name?
Oh yeah, welcome to the forum Chuck D, no fair guessing on this one!


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#49427 - 11/09/09 11:07 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Looks like the entrance spot to Hell Hole?

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#49430 - 11/09/09 11:35 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Originally Posted By: AOC
Looks like the entrance spot to Hell Hole?


Not in the Hell Hole.

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#49437 - 11/10/09 02:31 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Peekamoose Road. Waterfall on the west sid eof the road, north of the swimming hole.

Di you get the roof crack? I was eyeing that for an ascent this winter

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#49446 - 11/10/09 12:30 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: RangerRob]
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Originally Posted By: RangerRob
Peekamoose Road. Waterfall on the west sid eof the road, north of the swimming hole.
Di you get the roof crack? I was eyeing that for an ascent this winter

This is not off Peekamoose Rd though I've seen those and thought the same thing. We did get the roof, the crack was a little flared, the climbing was either M6 or M7. Here are a couple more pics...







Edited by cfrac (11/10/09 01:25 PM)

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#49447 - 11/10/09 01:05 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Hey, wait a minute. That's a repeat...kinda. wink
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#49452 - 11/10/09 02:58 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Buttermilk? When did you climb it? If I'm right, I've seen climbers groveling up that crack in years past.

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#49453 - 11/10/09 03:41 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Originally Posted By: AOC
Buttermilk? When did you climb it? If I'm right, I've seen climbers groveling up that crack in years past.

It's not Buttermilk, but I think I know the route you mean...the pitch just left of the last pitch on Buttermilk looks very similar but has a smaller roof and a steeper intro.

The route in question was climbed last year and isn't too far from Buttermilk.

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#49455 - 11/10/09 04:11 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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That narrows it down. In the meantime, here's an easy one:


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#49463 - 11/10/09 07:54 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Chris, you really have to check out the roof crack on Viola Falls.

Kinda short, but nowhere near Viola or Buttermilk Falls:


Edited by Mike Rawdon (11/10/09 09:05 PM)

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#49472 - 11/11/09 03:39 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
kmc2 Offline
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Is that at Moores Bridge around the corner from the steeper climbs on the right side(furthest away from the NEI 3 gully on the left)?

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#49473 - 11/11/09 01:34 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
Smike Offline
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Originally Posted By: AOC
That narrows it down. In the meantime, here's an easy one:


Hint? Adirondacks, somewhere in Avy pass?

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#49474 - 11/11/09 01:37 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
Smike Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mike Rawdon


Kinda short


Kinda? What, was Moores taken that day? smirk

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#49475 - 11/11/09 03:04 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: kmc2]
Mike Rawdon Offline

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Originally Posted By: kmc2
Is that at Moores Bridge around the corner from the steeper climbs on the right side(furthest away from the NEI 3 gully on the left)?


Not Moores. Though last March a similarly steep pillar showed up briefly around that west side. It was much thinner than this one though and we only TR'ed it. I wish I took a photo of it - it was just a couple inches thick at its base.

Honestly, I don't know why you guys think every photo I post is something at Moores Bridge. Really, I don't understand. wink

PS this one isn't in the guidebook, so we're looking for a location rather than a route name. And I don't know if it forms like this regularly. So maybe "you had to be there" (last year).


Edited by Mike Rawdon (11/11/09 03:17 PM)

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#49478 - 11/11/09 08:19 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Too much going on... OK, the one that I posted is on the left side of Wildcat Falls next to tier 1 or 2 I can't remember. May have been a FA I don't know.

AOC, you said an easy one? I don't know Adarondike? or something in Smuggs?

Mike R's post, it kind of look like Chapel Pond Canyon. On the way down to Positive Reinforcement???

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#49479 - 11/11/09 08:29 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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I don't think Mike's is in the canyon. I think it's that thing down around to the right of Crystal Ice Tower, can't remember the name?
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#49480 - 11/11/09 09:39 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Aya]
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Originally Posted By: Aya
I don't think Mike's is in the canyon. I think it's that thing down around to the right of Crystal Ice Tower, can't remember the name?


It's just above the pond maybe 100 yd left of Lions.

And Al's is indeed in Avy. Pass.

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#49481 - 11/11/09 09:58 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
Smike Offline
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Ah ha, Avalanche Mountain gully.

Originally Posted By: AOC
That narrows it down. In the meantime, here's an easy one:


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#49483 - 11/11/09 11:15 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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Now that you stated it Smike I see it. It seems so obvious now!

So Mike R, is your route in the guidebook, does it have a name?
and I will check out Viola, sounds good!

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#49486 - 11/12/09 01:05 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Avalanche Mt. Gully is correct. I thought the brown ice would be a give away.

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#49487 - 11/12/09 01:10 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Rawdon


PS this one isn't in the guidebook, so we're looking for a location rather than a route name. And I don't know if it forms like this regularly. So maybe "you had to be there" (last year).


I was stumped too. I didn't recognize myself in the photo. Short but strenuous.

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#49513 - 11/13/09 12:27 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Adirondacks - hint: the route on the right is fine:



Edited by AOC (11/13/09 12:44 AM)

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#49514 - 11/13/09 01:11 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
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Underwood Canyon? I don't know many of the names, but something like three stooges or one of the recommended routes on the East side?

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#49516 - 11/13/09 10:57 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Stooges is correct. Curly center and Larry (Fine) on the right.

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#49568 - 11/16/09 04:20 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: AOC]
cfrac Offline
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Another one...

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#49571 - 11/16/09 05:40 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
pcooke Offline
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Right side of Positive Reinforcement?

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#49573 - 11/16/09 08:18 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
Smike Offline
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Only a few places can looked that hacked up, and one of them is the hell hole. (Left side). (I don't care what they try to call it these days smirk )

Nice to see someone still leads it.

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#49580 - 11/17/09 01:04 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
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yes, Smike got it, Hell Hole.

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#49586 - 11/17/09 02:23 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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That baby was making some interesting noises and had water pouring down it when I was thinking about doing it last year. Sweet looking line but too much sun that day. Nice one!
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#49803 - 11/26/09 05:11 AM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: pitfall]
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A New one


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#49808 - 11/26/09 03:17 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
Jim Lawyer Offline
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Left of Passage (left of Rites of Passage)?

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#49818 - 11/27/09 02:22 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Jim Lawyer]
cfrac Offline
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Yes! One of those.

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#50152 - 12/22/09 08:53 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Smike]
Leemouse2 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Smike
Originally Posted By: HR1
how about this one


A long up hill road to death?


I know I'm late to this game but LOL. Hilarious.
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#50256 - 01/13/10 07:15 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: Leemouse2]
HR1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Leemouse2
Originally Posted By: Smike
Originally Posted By: HR1
how about this one


A long up hill road to death?


I know I'm late to this game but LOL. Hilarious.


Don't ask why I'm here instead of out climbing ice but...

Yes that was our take on the route as well, at least at that time; however it is generally referd to as the Coleman Headwall on Mt. Baker (WA)

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#50267 - 01/16/10 10:59 PM Re: Guess the Ice Route [Re: cfrac]
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Originally Posted By: cfrac
Too much going on... OK, the one that I posted is on the left side of Wildcat Falls next to tier 1 or 2 I can't remember. May have been a FA I don't know.

AOC, you said an easy one? I don't know Adarondike? or something in Smuggs?

Mike R's post, it kind of look like Chapel Pond Canyon. On the way down to Positive Reinforcement???


Did it two (or maybe three) years ago...that flared crack at the top was a b*tch, let me tell you...


Edited by paborden (01/16/10 10:59 PM)

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