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#49985 - 12/09/09 12:49 AM Bailouts, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka
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#49990 - 12/09/09 10:48 AM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: yorick]
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Not quite socialism or fascism. There are movements to audit the Federal Reserve Bank and to abolish it. I'm in favor of the former at least.
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#49998 - 12/09/09 04:35 PM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: oenophore]
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'Not quite socialism or fascism."

That's why they call it communitarianism.

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#50012 - 12/10/09 04:38 PM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: alicex4]
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Originally Posted By: alicex4
'Not quite socialism or fascism."

That's why they call it communitarianism.
Can you call TARP or the like communitarian?
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#50015 - 12/10/09 06:08 PM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: oenophore]
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TARP is just a violation of the constitution.

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#50018 - 12/10/09 10:59 PM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: alicex4]
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It seems as if such US Treasury purchase authorization is outside the designated power of Congress, yet I'd like to see what would the Supreme Court make of it if anyone had standing to contest it.
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#50019 - 12/11/09 01:03 AM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: alicex4]
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Originally Posted By: alicex4
Conservatives feel that TARP is just a violation of the constitution. But until a court test, it's merely the opinion predominantly of people with little or no understanding of constitutional law.

Fixed that for ya.
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#50022 - 12/11/09 11:09 AM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: MarcC]
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Conservatives feel that TARP is just a violation of the constitution. But until a court test, it's merely the opinion predominantly of people with little or no understanding of constitutional law.

Can you provide any documentation for that assertion? To refute it, one may merely name a critical number of conservatives with good understanding of constitutional law.
Perhaps you cite the constitutional clause that authorizes Congress to enable TARP.
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#50025 - 12/11/09 12:55 PM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: oenophore]
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Originally Posted By: oenophore
Can you provide any documentation for that assertion?


This was the question I would would have like Alice to answer more specificly than simply saying the Constitution. Seriously!

Actually aren


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#50026 - 12/11/09 02:02 PM Re: Free Markets, aka, State-sponsored capitalism, aka [Re: oenophore]
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Originally Posted By: oenophore
Can you provide any documentation for that assertion? To refute it, one may merely name a critical number of conservatives with good understanding of constitutional law.
Perhaps you cite the constitutional clause that authorizes Congress to enable TARP.


1) Google <TARP is a violation of the constitution> - you'll find sufficient hits on the first two pages, including analysis of a federal court case. You'll also find numerous hits at conservative blogs and news sites asserting the violation of the constitution - but not a lot of agreement on exactly what is violated.

2) The constitution is a document with far more verbiage that prevents things rather than expressly authorizing them.


Edited by MarcC (12/11/09 05:49 PM)
Edit Reason: fix cheesetitted spelling
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