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#43308 - 02/25/09 07:54 PM Re: Meanwhile, back in Guantanamo ... [Re: mworking]
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 Originally Posted By: mworking

Added: After some refelction this morning I feel that disbarement would be a very suitable minimum punishment. It would render them harmless in the manner they have caused abuse in the past and make an example of them.


But sadly, they would likely land extremely lucrative lecturing positions at Ivy League schools, or be consultants to lobbying and law firms. No ex-Admin official ever seems to go hungry.

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#45187 - 06/02/09 09:46 AM Re: Meanwhile, back in Guantanamo ... [Re: Daniel]
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I think Cheney and others are true believers in the unitary executive theory.


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#49203 - 11/03/09 11:17 AM Re: The former candidates [Re: andrew]
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that psuedo-Democrat Independent Lieberman has now totally burned his bridges with the democrats.




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#50098 - 12/18/09 11:19 PM Guantanamo transfer [Re: Daniel]
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Finally, I think Obama will respect the Constitution more than McCain. McCain, to his credit, has said he will close Guantanamo.

Now Congress wants to block that. If Obama had cojones, he'd threaten to pardon any prisoner still at Guantanamo after his deadline.
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#50112 - 12/20/09 03:32 PM Re: Guantanamo transfer [Re: oenophore]
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Originally Posted By: oenophore
Finally, I think Obama will respect the Constitution more than McCain. McCain, to his credit, has said he will close Guantanamo.

Now Congress wants to block that. If Obama had cojones, he'd threaten to pardon any prisoner still at Guantanamo after his deadline.


What? No way.

Way too many opposers would call that "bluff" in a heatbeat. It would be surely be unwise not to mention politically suicidal to actually pardon them.

I do believe that many of the prisoners held there should have been released long ago, and some should never have been there in the first place, but hopefully our government found a small percentage of prisoners who are actually worthy of being detained!


Edited by mworking (12/20/09 09:21 PM)

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#50117 - 12/20/09 09:15 PM Re: Guantanamo transfer [Re: mworking]
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And that's why it takes cojones.
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#50119 - 12/20/09 09:34 PM Re: Guantanamo transfer [Re: oenophore]
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Well, I'd be OK with it if he pardoned prisoners that shouldn't be prisoners. There were some that should never have gotten to Guantanamo. Don't know how many are left.

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#50123 - 12/21/09 12:32 PM Re: Guantanamo transfer [Re: mworking]
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Originally Posted By: mworking
I do believe that many of the prisoners held there should have been released long ago, and some should never have been there in the first place, but hopefully our government found a small percentage of prisoners who are actually worthy of being detained!


so you know all the prisoners personally and that they are innocent. you must be a secret agent.
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#50135 - 12/22/09 01:42 AM Re: Guantanamo transfer [Re: talus]
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Originally Posted By: talus
Originally Posted By: mworking
I do believe that many of the prisoners held there should have been released long ago, and some should never have been there in the first place, but hopefully our government found a small percentage of prisoners who are actually worthy of being detained!


so you know all the prisoners personally and that they are innocent. you must be a secret agent.


M...I tend to agree with talus. That is a pretty broad and blanket statement. Would you care to expound on your reasonings?

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#50139 - 12/22/09 04:09 AM Re: Guantanamo transfer [Re: AOR]
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Originally Posted By: AOR
Originally Posted By: talus
Originally Posted By: mworking
I do believe that many of the prisoners held there should have been released long ago, and some should never have been there in the first place, but hopefully our government found a small percentage of prisoners who are actually worthy of being detained!


so you know all the prisoners personally and that they are innocent. you must be a secret agent.


M...I tend to agree with talus. That is a pretty broad and blanket statement. Would you care to expound on your reasonings?

I'll let mworking do his own research and justification, but everyone might want to give this a read first:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2009/03/some_truths_abo/
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