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#39429 - 09/03/08 01:18 PM The Candidates
empicard Offline
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I can't get excited about either one.
What to do?
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#39431 - 09/03/08 01:54 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: empicard]
Julie Offline
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Historical statistics say that the economy does far better, and the income gap narrows significantly, under any Democratic administration.

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#39435 - 09/03/08 03:19 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: Julie]
Smike Offline
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"income gap narrows significantly"

Yes its called tax and spend policy. (Take from the rich and give to the poor) ;\)

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#39437 - 09/03/08 03:54 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: empicard]
oenophore Offline
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The major party candidates aren't the only ones running. As for those who say you'd waste your vote on a "third party" candidate, I'd say that one is wasting one's vote if the choice seems to be the lesser evil candidate. Vote for a loser; you won't be disappointed.
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#39438 - 09/03/08 04:33 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: Smike]
Julie Offline
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"Yes its called tax and spend policy. (Take from the rich and give to the poor)"

... as opposed to the present (take from the rest of us and give to Big Oil and the rich?) ...

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#39441 - 09/03/08 05:23 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: Julie]
skillet Offline
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Registered: 12/09/04
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Loc: long island,ny
i love this paragraph from a book i'm reading, "why we hate us"-dick meyer. "it boils down to this: when a moderate, independent-minded electorate must select between two-and only two- partisan choices, elections will be close. voters must choose, but because both choices are equally unrepresentative and unpopular, roughly equal numbers vote for each. so the winning team changes frequently. neither side has earned sustained, decisive popular support. in their invisible collective wisdom, voters would rather see power divided than given outright to one of the two creepy teams." love the last sentence.
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#39442 - 09/03/08 05:25 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: Julie]
Smike Offline
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This could go on forever.....

So the point is? BOTH choices SUCK!

This country didn’t get into its present state by one party or another.

(While Bush has been the Village Idiot, the Democratic congress has been 'secretly' approving all the spending...)


Edited by Smike (09/03/08 05:28 PM)

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#39443 - 09/03/08 05:27 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: Smike]
oenophore Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Smike
This could go on forever.....

So the point is? BOTH choices SUCK!

This country didn’t get into its present state by one party or another.

(While Bush has been the Town Idiot, the Democratic congress has been approving all the spending...)
Agreed. All the more reason, Smike, to consider my post above.
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#39445 - 09/03/08 05:43 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: oenophore]
mworking Offline
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Registered: 05/26/04
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I am solidly middle class – maybe upper middle class, certainly not wealthy, but I don’t mind paying taxes for healthcare, schools, government regulation of many things, infrastructure and defense. Non-corrupt idealistic governments are not perfect, but it seems to me that all these things are even worse off wore off when the private sector controls them. Of course corrupt governments are often far worse..

Sure I’d like to see our government eliminate waste and solve the grey areas exactly the way I want them to, but I don’t expect much of the first and less of the second.

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BOTH choices SUCK!


As for that I don’t feel Obama sucks as a choice. I am not afraid of what he will do, but I am already disappointed as his stances have mellowed. Despite that fact that I might like his view of things, I have never though he was a great candidate. He is far to susceptible to smears and they hurt his campaign severely.

PS: Pretty soon he’ll become a Christian and put the flag back on his plane ;\)


Edited by mworking (09/03/08 06:32 PM)

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#39447 - 09/03/08 06:12 PM Re: The Candidates [Re: oenophore]
Julie Offline
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Registered: 01/16/00
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Ohno, as much as I might agree that our electoral system is broken (in more than one way) .... Nader cost us Gore as a president.

Just imagine what the world would look like. Try not to cry, at least out loud.

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