Has anyone done this recently? If you did, did you find the "jagged offwidth" that is supposed to make up the crux of the pitch? We did it last weekend and traversed out left from the upper belay ledge, onto the face where Han's Puss and Feast of Fools p3 goes. Definitely no off width out there. The traverse is exciting. It goes around this wizard hat looking detached flake and up onto a steep face.

There was the obvious big right facing corner off that upper ledge, which looks good, but supposedly the pitch goes left of there.

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The offwidth is right off the ledge, about 20 feet or so left od where the first pitch ends. Can't miss it. It is a bit contrived to climb the pitch using the crack.

Wow we didn't see any offwidth at all, although we did scramble up to the higher ledge. Is that where we went wrong?

Yes. Scrambling up on the ledge was the line of the first ascent and puts you above the offwidth.

Let's also put this "off-width" in perspective:

1) the crack is barely wide enough to constitute an off-width - I kinda remember around 5", but it might be a little more or a little less.

2) It is a *single move* and, as is often the case with Gunks cracks, easily succumbs to a layback step.

Ahh so we side stepped it eh? Well all's well that ends well I suppose. Has anyone done the upper corner? It would be left of Man's Quest For Flight.

Let's also put this "off-width" in perspective:


Gosh, I am so sorry. I promise never, never to make that mistake again.

Rob,

Is the upper corner you're referring to the one at the start of the Traverse of the Clods? If so, you can continue up through the ceilings above. Difficult.

no Frank I think you're talking about the corner and ceilings of Man's Quest For Flight P2. This is a BIG corner about 25' left of the start of Traverse of The Clods, and at the very back of that higher ledge. It actually looks fairly fun, clean, and around 5.6 or 7ish

Yep. That's what I remember as the last pitch of Silhouette.