i pretty much always finish it the way rob described...never had any clue where the second pitch was 'supposed' to go...just took the obvious route to the top....the money is the first pitch with the direct variation....

Where is the off-width that Dana describes in relation to the off-width that starts the third pitch of Hans' Puss? Sounds very similar to me.

Steve where the hell are you these days? If you're around why are we not getting out and climbing?

Seth, I think I have a clear picture now of where this off width is. When you finish the first pitch on the GT ledge, instead of scrambling up to the ledge 15 feet higher and climbing from there you step left on the GT and climb a short wall underneath that ledge. I think people are saying the off width is there. Sounds liek I didn't miss much.

I think we're talking about the same off-width. Dick describes this as the beginning of P3 of Hans' Puss. It is a 5.5 pitch that goes up the off-width or scrambles up to the ledge from the right, then heads straight up the right-facing corner to a funky flake that iirc you undercling left to exit to the top.

Silhouette by contrast in Dick's book goes diagonally to the left on the face outside the corner that Hans' Puss ascends.

I'm just now looking at Swain's book and in the photo he has these pitches reversed. Silhouette goes up the right-facing corner and Hans' Puss goes diagonally up the face to the left.

Now that I think I know the off-width in question: it is short and easy, you didn't miss much.

Edited to add: but reading Swain's descriptions of the two routes, he seems to agree with Dick about where they go... another case of his lines in the photo being a little off.

Hmmm.....this now warrants further investigation. I thought I saw the last pitch of Hans' Puss when i finished Sillhouette...off to the left of us. I will admit to never having done P2 and 3 of Hans's Puss. It's now high time.

For what it is worth, I ended P3 of Sillhouette on the same clean streak that Feast of Fools tops out on.

rob-
i'm in california most of the time...davis...flat, dusty, boring...but yos is 3-3.5 hrs...tahoe stuff between 1.5 and 2.5 hrs...east side 4.5ish to 5.5ish depending on season...not so bad....

right now i'm actually in cape town....i'll be on the east coast from sept 13 to 20...should be in the gunks a few days...i'll drop a line...we should get out...lot of routes i never got on that i'd like to check out

Sorry Dude, I'll be in Prince Edward Island and Nova Scotia on all of those days. That sucks

have fun up there....you should get a boat and go find some huge unclimbed cliff up there....just read a good article about one in the new alpine journal i think

and i'll catch you next time i'm back east....or get your ass out to california and we'll do a wall or something in yos.....or i'll meet you in zion sometime....or moab for towers!