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#54241 - 08/25/10 01:41 PM
Williams Guide Books
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journeyman
Registered: 10/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Rosendale, NY
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Are there 4 editions of the Williams' guides? Blue, red, black & grey?
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#54242 - 08/25/10 01:58 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: gunks]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 10/06/01
Posts: 2657
Loc: Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
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There was also a "Classics" version.
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#54244 - 08/25/10 02:21 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/14/02
Posts: 2623
Loc: brooklyn
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1972 - Blue, 134p 1980 - Red, 463p 1991 - Black, Trapps 1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook 1991 - Black, Skytop 1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop 2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop 2004 - Grey Trapps 2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook
Edited by quanto_the_mad (08/25/10 04:01 PM)
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#54251 - 08/25/10 04:02 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/14/02
Posts: 2623
Loc: brooklyn
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Yep, thanks, was a typo.
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#54378 - 08/30/10 12:49 AM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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journeyman
Registered: 10/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Rosendale, NY
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1972 - Blue, 134p 1980 - Red, 463p 1991 - Black, Trapps 1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook 1991 - Black, Skytop 1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop 2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop 2004 - Grey Trapps 2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook
Thanks. My collection is complete.
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#54383 - 08/30/10 02:34 AM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: gunks]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/14/02
Posts: 2623
Loc: brooklyn
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1972 - Blue, 134p 1980 - Red, 463p 1991 - Black, Trapps 1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook 1991 - Black, Skytop 1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop 2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop 2004 - Grey Trapps 2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook
Thanks. My collection is complete. Time to start saving for a Gran 
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#54389 - 08/30/10 06:40 AM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: quanto_the_mad]
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newbie
Registered: 11/12/02
Posts: 49
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ
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1972 - Blue, 134p 1980 - Red, 463p 1991 - Black, Trapps 1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook 1991 - Black, Skytop 1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop 2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop 2004 - Grey Trapps 2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook
Thanks. My collection is complete. Time to start saving for a Gran Indeed, no collection is complete without the red hardcover 1964 Gran guidebook. Curt
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#54392 - 08/30/10 01:00 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/06/00
Posts: 3734
Loc: Ulster County, NY
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#54395 - 08/30/10 01:17 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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old hand
Registered: 11/01/00
Posts: 1165
Loc: Albany
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A guidebook is that thing that's probably sitting next to your cell phone.
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#54400 - 08/30/10 01:55 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Registered: 08/20/08
Posts: 34
Loc: New Paltz
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#54412 - 08/30/10 06:20 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/10/00
Posts: 3532
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I wonder how many people have all the above. I don't have the last 3, having moved from the area in late 2000. I do have a Gran though, along with an almost complete set of Eastern Trades as well as all the Swains and Ivan Rezuka's supplement (aka New 5.8s for 5.11 Leaders).
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#54967 - 09/17/10 04:06 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: curt]
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journeyman
Registered: 10/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Rosendale, NY
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1972 - Blue, 134p 1980 - Red, 463p 1991 - Black, Trapps 1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook 1991 - Black, Skytop 1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop 2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop 2004 - Grey Trapps 2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook
Thanks. My collection is complete. Time to start saving for a Gran Indeed, no collection is complete without the red hardcover 1964 Gran guidebook. Curt Just received copy of the Gran. Don't ask "how much?"  .
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#54969 - 09/17/10 04:40 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: gunks]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/10/00
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Just received copy of the Gran. Don't ask "how much?"  . Actually, I will! Curious as to what they're going for these days. I bought mine in 96 for $200.
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#54971 - 09/17/10 05:27 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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journeyman
Registered: 10/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Rosendale, NY
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Just received copy of the Gran. Don't ask "how much?"  . Actually, I will! Curious as to what they're going for these days. I bought mine in 96 for $200. It is selling for $495 at Chessler Books.
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#54977 - 09/17/10 07:40 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: oenophore]
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newbie
Registered: 08/20/08
Posts: 34
Loc: New Paltz
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Holy *^#&%$%$@! Might this be the most expensive modest book published in 1964? Probably not, although I'm not sure what you mean by "modest book." This site estimates the value of a first ed. of Where The Wild Things Are (1963) at over $10,000. Not too bad for children's book!
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#55018 - 09/20/10 12:59 AM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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journeyman
Registered: 10/26/01
Posts: 80
Loc: Rosendale, NY
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Come to think of it, I have a Williams red book with signatures of the author, Hans Kraus and Fritz Wiessner. What's that going for nowadays. (No use telling me that it's next to worthless, but out of sympathy for me you'll pay me $20 for it.)
I'll pay you $20 for your red Williams. PM me.
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#55066 - 09/20/10 05:25 AM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/10/00
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Come to think of it, I have a Williams red book with signatures of the author, Hans Kraus and Fritz Wiessner. What's that going for nowadays. (No use telling me that it's next to worthless, but out of sympathy for me you'll pay me $20 for it.)
I'll pay you $20 for your red Williams. PM me. He's pulling your leg, gunks. Um, I believe they were a bit more than $20 when we bought them (I have one too) simply because of the signatures.
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#55095 - 09/20/10 09:21 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/14/02
Posts: 2623
Loc: brooklyn
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I've seen Red Williams go for as little as $5. There's a bunch now for under $10.
What it's worth with the signatures I can't say...
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#55100 - 09/20/10 10:35 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/24/01
Posts: 5866
Loc: 212 land
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I've seen Red Williams go for as little as $5. There's a bunch now for under $10.
What it's worth with the signatures I can't say... To quote MarcC, "He's pulling your leg".
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#55151 - 09/21/10 05:33 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 05/14/02
Posts: 2623
Loc: brooklyn
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I'm just saying, you can buy an unsigned red for $10, in case you're looking to fill out your collection. There are a lot of them out there.
The Blue pops up now and then, I've seen a couple go for under $20 recently.
The Black Trapps was going for about $100 for a while, but it's dropped now that the Grey Trapps is out. Still not cheap, you can find it for under $40. The Nears and Skytop books are easy to find.
I've seen the Gran on sale for over $600, maybe Chessler reduced the price recently as it was there for a couple of years.
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#55583 - 10/18/10 03:13 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
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addict
Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 588
Loc: NYC
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Something I've wanted to get my hands on for a while is Rezucha's "Shawangunk Grit," which I understand was his own pamphlet/guidebook concerning the climbs he put up in the Seventies and Eighties.
I sent Ivan a message through mountainproject.com asking about it, and he told me he didn't think he had any copies. He suggested I contact Annie O'Neill, which I thought was amusing. I'd love to buy it or get a copy of it if someone has it lying around. I really enjoyed reading the "new" route descriptions in the Vulgarian Digest recently. Maybe if some enterprising person wanted to scan it, we could ask Ivan if he'd mind.
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#67662 - 03/21/13 08:58 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: gunks]
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stranger
Registered: 03/21/13
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If anyone is interested in Gunks guides, including Gran, Williams, Rezucha or Swain guides, I have them for sale.
I am selling off a very large collection of guidebooks and would like to find other rock climbing guidebook collectors.
You can reach me at jimmerson@earthlink.net
Thanks.
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#67665 - 03/22/13 01:41 PM
Re: Williams Guide Books
[Re: M Jimmerson]
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Registered: 10/27/10
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