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#56873 - 03/15/11 07:41 PM 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps
SethG Online   content
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Julie posted this over on mountainproject.com. Prehaps it should be put on the front page?

ATTENTION CLIMBERS!

Due to nesting peregrine falcons, the section of the Trapps cliff between the routes Beginner's Delight (5.3) and Triangle (5.9) is temporarily closed to rock climbing.

This is the Mac Wall, and Guide's wall (Beginner's, Minty, Mme G's), V3, and just before Middle Earth.

- Do not use ascent trails or rappel routes that access this area.
- Do not use the section of the cliff base climber's trail between these routes.
- Please refrain from excessive noise making while in the vicinity of this closure.

Thanks to Jannette from the GCC for sending this out.


The closure this year is really big, I'm a little bummed. I'm sure it's justified and all that. I'm just sayin'.
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#56874 - 03/15/11 07:46 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: SethG]
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Actually it isn't quite as big as I thought, I was momentarily misled by the inclusion of the Mac Wall in the description, when really the Mac Wall as it's usually understood isn't part of the closure.
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#56876 - 03/15/11 09:30 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: SethG]
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This includes such routes as Snooky's Return, Minty, beginners Delight, Madame G's, The Guides Wall, Raunchy, V-3, Cakewalk, Alley Oop, and Triangle.

Was up on Absurdland today and the peregrines are enforcing their turf quite agressively. Climbers beware.

RR

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#56881 - 03/15/11 11:03 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: RangerRob]
Julie Offline
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Sorry for that - my brain thinks of BG and 3 Pines as equivalent, and substituted. Thanks for catching it.


Edited by Julie (03/15/11 11:04 PM)

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#56882 - 03/16/11 02:41 AM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: Julie]
Lucander Offline
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Loc: Stone Ridge, NY
Here's to a good thaw on Moss Cliff and Poke-O before the raptors nest up north.

Had a nice time on Te Dum and Grand Central today, the Nears felt like there was a closure - no one around.

DL

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#56887 - 03/16/11 03:45 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: Lucander]
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Using the list from Mountain Project (which uses the Gray Dick), list of routes that covers:
Beginner's Delight: 5.3, PG
Octoberfest: 5.9-, R-X
Snooky's Return: 5.8, PG
Friends and Lovers: 5.9, PG
Minty: 5.3, G
Bag's End: 5.8+, PG
Tipsy Trees: 5.3, G
The Womb Step: 5.7, PG
Chimango: 5.9+, PG
Hawk: 5.4+, PG
Peregrine: 5.8, PG
Reach of Faith: 5.10-, PG
Southern Pillar: 5.2, G
Columbia: 5.9-, G
Madame Grunnebaum's Wulst: 5.6, G
Madame Grunnebaum's Sorrow: 5.8-, PG
Le Teton: 5.9, G
Finger Locks or Cedar Box: 5.5, G
Northern Pillar: 5.2, G
Hyjek's Horror: 5.8-, PG
Twin Oaks: 5.3, PG
Triple Bulges: 5.5, PG
Delusions of Grandeur: 5.9+, PG
Willie's Weep: 5.2, G
Don't Shoot: 5.6, G
Lat-On the Season: 5.7, PG
Gleet Street: 5.8, R
Funny Face: 5.5-, PG
Son of Bitchy Virgin: 5.6, PG
Immaculate Virgin: 5.6, PG
Bitchy Virgin: 5.6, R
Unamed: 5.2, G
Dat Mantel: 5.10, PG
Dis-Mantel: 5.10, G
Kernmantle: 5.8, PG
High Times: 5.9+, PG-R
Stop the Presses Mr. Williams: 5.8+, PG
Gory Thumb: 5.8+, G-PG
Raunchy: 5.8, PG
Wild Horses: 5.9, R
Badfinger: 5.9+, PG
Help!: 5.11+, R
Pleh: 5.11+, R
V-3: 5.7, G
City Streets: 5.10, PG
Country Roads: 5.10, PG
Commando Rave: 5.9, PG
Metropolis: 5.11+, PG-R
Beyond the Fringe: 5.9, R
Balrog: 5.10, G-PG
Bullfrog: 5.12-, PG-R
Blind Alley: 5.8, PG
Dry Heaves: 5.8, PG
Alley Oop: 5.7, PG
Cheap Thrills: 5.10, PG
Deep Chills: 5.11+, R-X
Cakewalk: 5.7, PG
Nurdland: 5.10, R
Turdland: 5.10+, PG
Triangle: 5.9-, PG

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#56898 - 03/17/11 11:51 AM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: Doug]
Rickster Online   content
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And, that's just for the Peregrines. Wait until the Black Vultures start their thang.
We can live with it however, better to see Peregrines stooping about, than crowds of anxious folks awaiting their turn on another top rope.

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#56900 - 03/17/11 01:46 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: Rickster]
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I'm just peeved I won't get to start my season with the second ascent of Monumantle.
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#56901 - 03/17/11 05:33 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: SethG]
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What I like about the Peregrines...is that they make people explore a bit...find other routes that aren't so familiar or popular and check them out.

Maybe people might even head for the 'Nears past Grease Gun, but I won't hold my breath.

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#56902 - 03/17/11 05:39 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: tallgirlnyc]
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lol..that's funny Tallgirl! Can you imagine people actually exploring past Grease Gun Groove? As if!

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#56903 - 03/17/11 06:34 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: RangerRob]
Lucander Offline
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Loc: Stone Ridge, NY
I once got lost and walked out there before, there were lots of people top roping Tulip Mussel Garden.

DL

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#56905 - 03/17/11 07:46 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: Lucander]
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Originally Posted By: Lucander
I once got lost and walked out there before, there were lots of people top roping Tulip Mussel Garden.

DL



still laughing..

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#56910 - 03/17/11 11:42 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: tallgirlnyc]
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Rob, there is no climbing past Grease Gun Groove.

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#56911 - 03/18/11 12:41 AM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: rg@ofmc]
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HERE BE DRAGONS
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#56912 - 03/18/11 01:53 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: empicard]
tradjunkie Offline
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Isn't that Millbrook?

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#56913 - 03/18/11 02:26 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: tradjunkie]
mrhutt Offline
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Just as an FYI, I spoke to one of the rangers yesterday (GORGEOUS day for climbing, by the way) and he said that they're hoping to reduce the closure area soon. The raptors are still going through their site selection process. Once they pick a site and begin nesting, they *should* be able to open up a nice portion of those routes.

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#56941 - 03/22/11 04:42 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: mrhutt]
stoopid Offline
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Loc: West Sand Lake, NY
Originally Posted By: mrhutt
Just as an FYI, I spoke to one of the rangers yesterday (GORGEOUS day for climbing, by the way) and he said that they're hoping to reduce the closure area soon. The raptors are still going through their site selection process. Once they pick a site and begin nesting, they *should* be able to open up a nice portion of those routes.


Good to hear, I assumed they were just being lazy and didn't know exactly where the Peregrines were nesting (from lack of investigation) and just closed a bunch to be on the 'safe' side. At least this is just a precautionary closure and many of the routes will be opened sooner than later.

There's a Raven's nest at the top of Three Pines (pitch 2). It doesn't seem to care much that we're there, which makes sense since it picked a site at the top of a popular route.

Lots of raven vs peregrine action this past weekend.

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#56942 - 03/22/11 04:43 PM Re: 2011 Peregrine Closure in the Trapps [Re: empicard]
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Originally Posted By: empicard
HERE BE DRAGONS


Awesome, haven't seen that map referenced in years. lol

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