I hate to take the spirit of adventure away from anyones experience, but thought I should share this anyway. I climbing Laughing Man today, and the left facing flake ~10-15' off of the ground, prior to the roof, seemed to be very loose. The flake shifted and creaked a bit as I was pulling off/out on the hold to gain the horizontal below the large roof. This may be old news or common knowledge, but I have never experienced this w/ this particular feature before. If your climbing this route, exercise caution navigating around this hold, when this thing goes its going to be a really bad day for both climber and belayer.