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#58391 - 06/30/11 03:46 PM Aliens Back
fotovult Offline

Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 136
Loc: ny

#58399 - 06/30/11 05:30 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: fotovult]
climberism Offline

Registered: 03/30/10
Posts: 29
All the new Alien's will be made with the same raw material and the same machinery, guaranteeing the same ol' cams everyone is in love with. smile
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#58403 - 06/30/11 06:11 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: climberism]
RobA Offline

Registered: 04/16/09
Posts: 46
Loc: Alta, UT
hopefully with better quality control....

#58431 - 07/01/11 03:14 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: RobA]
Chas Offline

Registered: 03/22/01
Posts: 1754
Loc: Flagstaff
I would expect FIXE would improve the quality control. Climbing companies (along with companies in other industries) know that reputation is your most important selling point.

Have to say, when I climbed in the gunks I liked them but I destroyed them too quickly. Moving out west I migrated away from them and know I climb with black diamond C3's and C4's. I find there are routes I've done where only C3's work. When Mike Sokoloff and I went to free climbing with 100% gear of Shangri-la (5.12d) in Sedona, the only reason why you could bypass the bolts were because you could get C3's in the cracks (all other cams are too wide).

#58453 - 07/02/11 02:36 AM Re: Aliens Back [Re: Chas]
worthrussell Offline

Registered: 04/11/10
Posts: 90
Loc: NY, Brooklyn
cant wait i just wish i hadnt jumped on the master cams. Aliens are so much more confidence inspiring

#58522 - 07/05/11 12:53 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: worthrussell]
Smike Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 05/01/01
Posts: 3143
Loc: in your backyard
Fuc$K*& A! FINALLY a replacement for my old (12yr+) Aliens. Nothing, has come along that has been at least an equal replacement. If anyone thinks otherwise its b/c they have either never climbed enough/or hard enough with Aliens.

Since no one has died hanging off FIXE gear, the odds are good that Q/C will be top notch.

#58523 - 07/05/11 01:07 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: Smike]
rg@ofmc Online   content

Registered: 12/25/99
Posts: 2467
Loc: Poughkeepsie, NY
I've found C3's to be equal to or better than Aliens in the Gunks, but I still have blue, green, yellow, and grey Aliens on my rack, paired with but not identical to similarly-sized C3's. The green Alien in particular fills a C3 sizing gap.

The narrower C3 head width means they go where Aliens can't.

#58565 - 07/06/11 01:14 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: rg@ofmc]
schwortz Offline

Registered: 09/10/03
Posts: 308
i've only used c3s in the gunks once but i find on california granite that aliens go in where c3s wont as often as c3s go in when aliens wont. c3s however tend to be a bitch to clean from certain placements (which i guess can be a good thing if its the only thing between you and bad fall) and in some placements i think they rotate more.

#58567 - 07/06/11 01:26 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: schwortz]
SethG Offline
old hand

Registered: 12/16/08
Posts: 709
Loc: NYC
I've tried to love the C3s, I really have, and I carry and place them all the time, but I find they have a frustrating tendency to rotate and then one of the lobes pops. Or to avoid this I have to place them so overcammed that they're hard to clean. If reports show these new "Aliens" feel much like the old ones I'll probably buy a full set with doubles of green, yellow & gray.
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#58658 - 07/08/11 02:22 PM Re: Aliens Back [Re: SethG]
acdnyc Offline

Registered: 11/10/04
Posts: 208
Loc: NYC/Kerhonkson
Love my black aliens. I have two. I fell on one so I carry the newer one all the time. I also have C3s and I like them. I used them to replace my aliens but i missed them so much I carry them too. Now I carry all five C3s, black through yellow Aliens and 1-4 Metolius TCU.
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