Response to Dana on the first page of thread in a discussion on 2 protection bolts in the Near Trapps: the 1/4 rusted spinner on Fat City is off to the left of how the route is commonly climbed today, which breaks right after the infamous crux. Check your Phoebe reference - that bolt was replaced last season.

A 5.6 in the private property zone of the afore-mentioned cliff has been retro-bolted so that what was once a neckyish top out is now quite safe. This, of course, raises all kinds of questions about the exact wording of deeds, respect for precedence, and the rights of private land owners - none of which I am well qualified to answer.

There's also the 1966 Kelsey "A Supplement to A Climber's Guide to the Shawangunks"

I have a couple of trivial questions.

What the heck ever became of Kligfield and Ingalls?

Kligfield has posted on this site, but does not use his name.

No idea about Dave Ingalls

Ok, how about this one: Name a free climbing route that still has a copperhead (an aid piece not the snake) on it. I only know of one, maybe there are others?

Don't know where Ingalls is now, but he became a member of the North American Man-Boy Love Association, (not making this up---Google it) where his duties may have preempted climbing...

As of March '10 Roy was posting as ... Roy Kligfield.

cfrac, fixed copperhead, on Twilight Zone?

Rich:
I avoid typing things like that into Google. Never can tell who is going to come banging on my front door. I don't need the hassle.

Just got a letter from our benefactor. Strange stuff going on.

No copperheads on Twilight Zone, though I'm pretty sure I remember seeing heads on The Best Things in Life... several years ago. It's in the Trapps and to be fair it's listed as a variation, but it's between well traveled lines.

Are you sure he didnt join the North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?