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#59805 - 08/25/11 06:00 PM Gunks Invasive Species list
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Thought it might be interesting to start a list of invasive Plants and animals and any good methods of control. If others could post pics that would be great.

Ailanthus (tree of heaven) remove by pulling out stumps and pulling all roots.

Japanese stilt grass (cut each year or burn each year just before it goes to seed)

Japanese barberry (cut and burn all thickets with berries and pull root system up.)

Garlic mustard (manual removal and makes a good pesto)

Hemlock Woolly Adelgid
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#59807 - 08/25/11 10:26 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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#59814 - 08/26/11 10:03 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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Hemlock Woolly Adelgid

What can the layman do about that? The most loathsome species are indigenous: biting/stinging insects and poison ivy.
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#59815 - 08/26/11 10:51 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: oenophore]
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Originally Posted By: oenophore
Hemlock Woolly Adelgid

What can the layman do about that? The most loathsome species are indigenous: biting/stinging insects and poison ivy.


You can use any organic horticultural oil or soap to control woolly adelgid. Loathsome as some stinging insects migjt be they are actually quite beneficial environmentally. Most hornets and wasps eat many other pest insects. The chemical agents used to control stinging insects are far worse that the insects themselves. If you think poison ivy is bad check out giant hogweed, an invasive that is for the moment rare in the gunks.

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#59839 - 08/28/11 06:41 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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Good thing this flooding happened before the japanese stilt grass went to seed. Hopefully the towns will not cut the grass in september while this grass has seeds as this further spreads it.
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#59843 - 08/28/11 07:48 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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I heard the Mohonk Mtn House is encouraging the spread of stilt grass in a ploy to further devalue neighboring land. They may even be suggesting that the town time their cutting so as to maximize the seed dispersal.

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#59850 - 08/28/11 09:09 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Obviously the storm itself and associated flooding is also a nefarious plot by the evil Mohonk Mtn House and the Preserve to further devalue neighboring land, all orchestrated by that fiendish organization, the Smiley family.

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#59867 - 08/29/11 03:04 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: retroscree]
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No one has yet mentioned the Bar Flies. Nasty critters.

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#59896 - 08/31/11 06:37 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Mike Rawdon]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Rawdon
I heard the Mohonk Mtn House is encouraging the spread of stilt grass in a ploy to further devalue neighboring land. They may even be suggesting that the town time their cutting so as to maximize the seed dispersal.


Oh yu said seed dispersal!

Jeez the I advocacy group is still around. I smell Kent.

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#59900 - 08/31/11 10:38 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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check out giant hogweed

I did and was amazed. I can imagine a vindictive person spreading its seeds around someone's residence. One's best weapon against it might be the goat.
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#60259 - 09/19/11 03:42 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: oenophore]
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Japanese stiltgrass is seeding now so if you cut it and move it the seeds will spread. If you cut it now make sure to burn the grass to prevent seed dispersal.
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#64536 - 05/03/12 01:36 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: oenophore]
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Garlic Mustard is flowering now. For those who are interested it's a good time to pull this very invasive herb. It also happens to be quite tasty and we regularly serve it on our invasive species menu in the spring. Just make sure to eat the leaves and discard the root and stem in the trash. Young rosettes are tastier than older plants and can be made into pesto, or cooked like spinach.

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#64550 - 05/03/12 10:11 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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I don't recall seeing garlic mustard in any seed catalog. If it's so tasty, might it be missed if eradicated? Or is that highly unlikely?
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#64551 - 05/03/12 10:54 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: oenophore]
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It is so prolific that it changes complete forest ecosystems and is banned from sale in many if not all states. We are involved in a pull right now that is going well, plus you get to bring home all the GM you want for dinner. It would be a great service to the environment if the Mohonk Preserve had every visitor pull a hand full of this stuff on the way in and on the way out. I know that there have been Garlic Mustard pulls at other preserves.


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#64588 - 05/03/12 04:49 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: oenophore]
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I don't recall seeing garlic mustard in any seed catalog. If it's so tasty, might it be missed if eradicated? Or is that highly unlikely?


Quoted from the Catskills Native Nursery Catskills Native Nursery Facebook 2011 post:

BAD PLANT, BAD!
Now is the time when one of the worst invasive plants makes itself prominent, I'm talking about GARLIC MUSTARD (Alliaria petiolata). This rampant weed is an ecological threat to native plants and animals in the forest communities of The Catskills (and other places).

Many native wildflowers that complete their life cycles in the springtime (e.g., spring beauty, wild ginger, bloodroot, Dutchman's breeches, hepatica, toothworts, and trilliums) occur in the same habitat as garlic mustard. Once introduced to an area, garlic mustard outcompetes native plants by aggressively monopolizing light, moisture, nutrients, soil and space. Wildlife species that depend on these early plants for their foliage, pollen, nectar, fruits, seeds and roots, are deprived of these essential food sources when garlic mustard replaces them. Humans are also deprived of the vibrant display of beautiful spring wildflowers. White-tailed deer worsen the problem because they prefer native plants to garlic mustard, thus large deer populations may help to expand its range by removing competing native plants and exposing the soil and seedbed through trampling.

Invasions of garlic mustard are causing the extinction of the woodland toothwort butterflies because the butterfly cannot tell the difference between garlic mustard and wildflowers known as "toothworts" (Dentaria), also in the mustard family, that are the primary food source for the caterpillar stage of this butterfly. Chemicals in garlic mustard appear to be toxic to the eggs of the butterfly, as evidenced by their failure to hatch when laid on garlic mustard plants by the confused mother butterfly.

A single garlic mustard plant can produce thousands of seeds. Herbicides are not very effective against this plant and the best method to control it is pulling it up by hand. Care must be taken to remove the plant with its entire root system because new plants can sprout from root fragments. Do not put the plant in your compost bin because the plant has properties that damage soil and make it difficult for other plants to grow. In a study in Ontario, scientists found that sugar maple and other hardwood seedlings grew much slower and did not germinate as well in soil areas infested with garlic mustard.

Yes, you can eat garlic mustard, but it's a powerfully stinky and your skin and breath will smell like it for 24 hours after ingesting. If you want to eat it, I suggest you pull up the whole plant, harvest the leaves and throw the rest in the garbage. You might be saving a toothwort butterfly or sugar maple seedling in the process.

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#64657 - 05/04/12 04:03 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Mim]
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"Yes, you can eat garlic mustard, but it's a powerfully stinky and your skin and breath will smell like it for 24 hours after ingesting. If you want to eat it, I suggest you pull up the whole plant, harvest the leaves and throw the rest in the garbage. You might be saving a toothwort butterfly or sugar maple seedling in the process."


This is not true! Actually the young plants are quite tasty and can be eaten raw or cooked like spinach. It will not make your breath and skin smell for 24 hrs. Discard as the article suggests or burn it to prevent further spread. Here are a couple of ideas for eating.

Creamed garlic mustard
garlic mustard pesto
raw in salad

Use only young leaves or the micro green shoots for best flavor.
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#65082 - 05/31/12 02:43 AM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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Garlic Mustard has bolted and is ready to pick now. It pulls out quickly so get it before it goes to seed and burn it or bag it and send to the dump. Japanese Stilt Grass is just starting to come up and is about 5" now. Wait until it matures to pull or it will go to seed early. Multiflora Rose is also in bloom now so pull it if you see it! This was introduced by DEC for erosion control......
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#65235 - 06/04/12 04:33 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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western new paltz bitch weed is a problem this season.

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#65245 - 06/04/12 07:30 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: crimpy]
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LOL!

So AG is on record approving controlled burns of garlic mustard.
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#65711 - 06/25/12 01:39 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: oenophore]
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At freshkills park goats take a bite out of an invasive species:

New York City's Parks Department is hoping an invasive marsh grass on Staten Island is no match for the insatiable appetites of 20 Anglo-Nubians.
Those are goats, just to be clear.
The four-legged lawnmowers were deployed last week along the shore of wetlands in what will be Freshkills Park, where non-native marsh grasses called phragmites have forced out native grasses like spartina, hurting the local ecosystem.
Park administrator Eloise Hirsh said the goats fit in with the eco-friendly mission of the park, which is being built atop a former landfill.
"Everything that we build on the site is going to express sustainability," she said. "We're going to have composting toilets and wind-powered comfort stations and geothermal heated buildings."
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#65715 - 06/25/12 01:53 PM Re: Gunks Invasive Species list [Re: Advocacy group]
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From the NYT.

On a sweltering afternoon on Staten Island, the New York City parks department unveiled its latest weapon in the war on phragmites, an invasive weed that chokes the shoreline: goats. Twenty Anglo-Nubians, to be exact. With names like Mozart, Haydn and Van Goat, and with floppy ears and plaintive bleats, they did not seem fearsome. But on Thursday they were already munching inexorably through the long pale leaves in the first phase of a wetland restoration at what will soon be Freshkills Park.
Van Goat with Mr. Cihanek, who has provided 20 of the animals.
Known for their unending, indiscriminate appetites, the goats are being rented by the city for the next six weeks from a farmer in the Hudson Valley. Parks officials are counting on the goats to clear the phragmites across two acres of wetlands that will eventually be cultivated with native grasses like spartina and black needle rush. The hope is that the goats will weaken the phragmites, setting the stage for another series of assaults on their stubborn rhizomes — applying herbicide, scarifying the earth and laying down sand.

In the short term, the goats are part of an unusual experiment to eradicate the pesky reeds, which were introduced from Europe in the late 19th century and which, once rooted, are almost impossible to eliminate. They have fueled brush fires across the region and pushed out other species along the East Coast.

But the farm animals are also being tested for their lawn-mowing prowess, especially at Freshkills Park, which is in transition from its former life as the world's largest landfill to its future one — as the largest park to be developed in New York City in more than a century.

"We want to introduce the idea of using goats to help in vegetation management," Eloise L. Hirsh, the administrator of the park, said. "The sanitation department mows us once a year. But this is 2,200 acres. We need help."

The goats are perhaps the most vivid example of the lengths to which the city is going to turn a symbol of environmental degradation into one of ecological redemption. As Freshkills Park is developed in phases over the next three decades, it will be a laboratory for green practices; there are plans for composting toilets, green roofs, rain gardens and a native seed farm.

The official opening of the park is two or three years off, though it is open periodically for tours. Three of the four giant mounds formed by garbage are now capped, and the parks department will soon solicit bids on the first stage of development — 21 acres with walking paths and a bird observation tower overlooking the wetlands. Already, the landscape looks impossibly bucolic, with dragonflies and swallows darting amid lanky grasses and the occasional tree.

The goats only add to the pastoral image. On Thursday, Beethoven, with long white ears and a black body, and Van Goat, sporting a black stripe down his chestnut back, were contentedly exploring their new territory, plunging their mouths into dense stands of phragmites. Others trotted down to the shore of Main Creek, a tributary of the Fresh Kill. (In yet another act of environmental rectitude, parks workers will soon arrange logs made of coconut fiber along the banks to attract mussels, which prevent erosion.)

"The first test was to see if they would eat the phragmites, and they're eating it, so they passed," said Terry Doss, an ecologist with Biohabitats, a company specializing in ecological restoration that is advising the parks department.

The city received a grant of $350,000 from the state for the wetlands project. (The cost of renting the goats from Larry Cihanek of Rhinebeck, N.Y., is $20,625 for the six weeks.) If the goats prove successful, Freshkills Park may one day have a permanent herd. "It's exciting to be able to replace what would be a carbon-polluting mowing strategy with a more natural approach," said Andrew Deer, a landscape architect for the parks department.

While goats have been deployed for phragmite duty elsewhere, some ecologists are skeptical.

"I'm not a big fan of goats," said Bernd Blossey, an associate professor of natural resources at Cornell University. "I understand why people are desperate to try them. But they will eat the leaves but not the stems, and they also don't like getting their hooves wet."

Professor Blossey is experimenting with moth caterpillars, which can weaken phragmites. In the 1990s, he was successful in unleashing leaf beetles against another plant invader, purple loosestrife, which is not nearly the scourge it once was.

But as the goats made their debut this week at Freshkills Park, any such doubts were pushed to the background. Ms. Hirsh was already looking ahead to a day when goats not only keep phragmites in check, but also put Staten Island on the artisanal food map. "We would like to have a cheese manufacturer here," she said. "I know there will be lots of skepticism. But it would be a pretty eloquent statement about how you really can restore land that was formerly very damaged."
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