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#62691 - 02/17/12 09:26 PM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: ianmanger]
GOclimb Offline
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Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 2359
Loc: Boston
Originally Posted By: ianmanger
Ha, nice try. Read the earlier exchanges with jake..


What? I thought "Sorry" meant "sorry, not interested".

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#62692 - 02/18/12 01:57 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: GOclimb]
donald perry Offline
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Registered: 06/27/11
Posts: 1527
Loc: New Jersey
Who here loves spam?


Edited by donald perry (02/18/12 04:32 AM)
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The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here http://youtu.be/9AU8fMo8v4k.

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#62693 - 02/18/12 02:34 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: donald perry]
RangerRob Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/06/00
Posts: 3764
Loc: Ulster County, NY
Actually I don't understand what someone's hardest redpoint in a numerical grading system has to do with thei badassness. I'm sure we could all name dozens, if not hundreds of examples of routes that are gnarly, but not because of the grade. Heinous runouts, awkward climbing, objectively hazardous situations....all of these things can be used to measure a routes badassness. The numerical grade is actually a fairly weak indicator of badassness.

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#62694 - 02/18/12 04:29 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: RangerRob]
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Tough Shift is a climb, that at the time I tried it, I never felt like I wanted to commit myself to it. I remember it being out of control. I suppose if I were to resolve myself to solo it, that would make things a lot more simple. Looking for protection up there is a project, as I remember it, and difficult to down climb. And I refuse to just "go for it" leading on a climb like that, too confusing.


Edited by donald perry (02/18/12 04:34 AM)
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The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here http://youtu.be/9AU8fMo8v4k.

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#62700 - 02/19/12 12:34 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: donald perry]
Rickster Online   content
old hand

Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 845
Loc: Orange Cty, NY
Originally Posted By: donald perry
Who here loves spam?


Why, I love Spam.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o

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#62701 - 02/19/12 01:44 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: Rickster]
donald perry Offline
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Registered: 06/27/11
Posts: 1527
Loc: New Jersey
never mind.


Edited by donald perry (02/20/12 01:49 AM)
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The Mohonk Mountain House and the Mohonk Preserve have done a great job protecting the environment thus far, but ... it's all down hill from here http://youtu.be/9AU8fMo8v4k.

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#62702 - 02/19/12 05:55 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: donald perry]
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Registered: 05/02/04
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#62703 - 02/19/12 05:58 AM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: drkodos]
drkodos Offline
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Registered: 05/02/04
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Loc: Chattanooga, TN
have you people not realized yet that climbing and internet go together like bleach and ammonia?

Good luck and may the winds of change catch the sails of your own personal Beagle on your voyages of discovery and evolution...and maybe one day, even those knuckle scrapes could heal once you stop dragging them everywhere you go.

If the shoe fits, wear it. Wash, rinse and repeat as needed until the water runs clear.
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#62706 - 02/19/12 03:24 PM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: drkodos]
Ralph Offline
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Registered: 02/01/07
Posts: 138
Welcome back, Dr.
Dr.'s Ethos

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#62723 - 02/20/12 04:37 PM Re: New Routes And Climbing Ethics [Re: Ralph]
chip Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 10/06/01
Posts: 2675
Loc: Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
Muppets rock!

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