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#65131 - 06/01/12 12:35 PM Prescribed Burns
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Anyone catch the heat the Mohonk Preserve is getting in the local papers for their burning? Very interesting 2 page PR spread in this weeks NP times...... This PR stunt is just going to add fuel to the fire that will surely jump the widest of fire breaks.

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#65135 - 06/01/12 03:48 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: Advocacy group]
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Do you have a link?

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#65137 - 06/01/12 06:02 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: retroscree]
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Originally Posted By: retroscree
Do you have a link?


Here's the most recent article in the Times Herald Record's web archive, May, 2011. There was a more recent one in March, 2012, but could not find the article. Both have a very positive take on the use of prescribed burns along the ridge.

www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110510/NEWS/105100330&cid=sitesearch

And, the fire burn plan posted at the Shawangunk Ridge Biodiversity Partnership's web site. http://www.gunksfireplan.org/burninfo.html

And, a youtube video of the March 2012 burn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpZUZ-YMzI


Edited by Rickster (06/01/12 06:07 PM)

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#65138 - 06/01/12 06:09 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: Rickster]
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The article in the New Paltz times is basically a rebuttal of all the negative publicity that the Mohonk Preserve has been getting for burning the ridge and putting neighbors at risk. It is interesting how they continue to say that fire is natural in the Northeast......complete propaganda!
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#65139 - 06/01/12 06:20 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: Advocacy group]
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Originally Posted By: Advocacy group
The article in the New Paltz times is basically a rebuttal of all the negative publicity that the Mohonk Preserve has been getting for burning the ridge and putting neighbors at risk. It is interesting how they continue to say that fire is natural in the Northeast......complete propaganda!

Actually, it isn't propaganda.
Fire Management in the Northeast

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#65140 - 06/01/12 07:01 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: retroscree]
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Sure RetroMarcC, and Philip Morris says smoking does not cause cancer according to their research........ Nice source. When was the last natural fire in the gunks?
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#65141 - 06/01/12 07:47 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: Advocacy group]
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Originally Posted By: Advocacy group
Sure RetroMarcC, and Philip Morris says smoking does not cause cancer according to their research........ Nice source. When was the last natural fire in the gunks?

Since you're not going to believe any source that contradicts your beliefs, do your own research.

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#65142 - 06/01/12 08:54 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: retroscree]
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Originally Posted By: retroscree
Originally Posted By: Advocacy group
Sure RetroMarcC, and Philip Morris says smoking does not cause cancer according to their research........ Nice source. When was the last natural fire in the gunks?

Since you're not going to believe any source that contradicts your beliefs, do your own research.


Wrong again RetroMarcC. We think it's best to look at independent research that does not benefit from the outcome. The source that you provided is clearly biased.

Thanks, MPNA
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#65143 - 06/01/12 10:51 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: Advocacy group]
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Originally Posted By: Advocacy group
... When was the last natural fire in the gunks?


Your are kidding right?

You have certainly lived along the ridge long enough to remember the Overlook Fire along Rt. 44/55 west of Minnewaska? April 17 to 21, 2008?

www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/galle...n=desktop#img-6

This wildfire burned for 4 days and had many land managers and home owners very concerned.

Then we remember what happened to Wildmere and Cliff House at the old Minnewaska Hotel Resort? Though arson isn't "natural", that fire could have been even more devastating to the ridge environs if not for the strong response of multiple companies of fire fighters, the hotel's road network allowing for the access of fire trucks, and forming fire breaks, and the close proximity of a ready source of water.

On two occasions during my early climbing years at the Gunks, ranger Thom Schuer stopped at the Uberfall and recruited us to assist in the fighting of brush fires along Overcliff Rd.

I can't imagine that over the years, there have not been more wildfires.

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#65144 - 06/01/12 11:30 PM Re: Prescribed Burns [Re: Advocacy group]
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Perhaps these prescribed burn posts may prevent virulent flames on some other threads.
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