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#64317 - 04/28/12 08:10 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: charliebutters]
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Originally Posted By: charliebutters
lyme has been around for centuries.i have no idea why you posting all this stuff as though its some sort of revelation.
Sex has been around for an estimated two billion years, yet when one gets laid for the first time it's quite a big deal.
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#64318 - 04/28/12 11:15 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: retroscree]
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Originally Posted By: retroscree
You are so screwed:



Wow, I wish someone showed me that map sooner. New Paltz is the same as Lyme Ct!


Edited by donald perry (04/28/12 11:24 PM)
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#64319 - 04/28/12 11:59 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: oenophore]
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yeah but most kinda keep it to themselves
Originally Posted By: oenophore
Originally Posted By: charliebutters
lyme has been around for centuries.i have no idea why you posting all this stuff as though its some sort of revelation.
Sex has been around for an estimated two billion years, yet when one gets laid for the first time it's quite a big deal.

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#64321 - 04/29/12 02:01 AM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: crimpy]
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Unless there is a Spirocete involved.


Edited by donald perry (04/29/12 02:02 AM)
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#64326 - 04/29/12 09:43 AM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: donald perry]
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Lyme disease is one of the most challenging diseases seen in a long time in that it is difficult to prevent, diagnose and treat. ... Want to know about Lyme borreliosis? Learn everything you can about syphilis.



http://www.freewebs.com/lymefacts/thegreatimitator.htm


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http://www.angelfire.com/biz/romarkaraoke/lymeart.html Lyme disease may have a latency period of months to years before symptoms of late infection emerge.


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About 50% of patients do not have typical bullseye rash or do not remember it. Therefore they were presenting with nonspecific symptoms, not suggestive of Lyme. Sounds very simple: if you do not know what it is - get the blood test done! CDC recommends to do antibody detecting test called ELISA first, and then if it is positive, proceed with another antibody detecting immunologic test, called Western blot. http://EzineArticles.com/4792598 [Testing is grossly inaccurate. There are asymptomatic patients who test positive, yet also, patients with intractable symptoms who test negative, http://www.freewebs.com/lymefacts/thegreatimitator.htm]


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http://www.seranogroup.org/index.php/site/entry/great_book_on_lyme_borreliosis_published_in_1917/ The big difference between the two is that Treponema pallidum, the spirochete that causes syphilis, lives only in humans, unable to tolerate temperature variation more than a few degrees from 98.6 degrees F. It is completely dependent on the chemical and physical environment the human body provides. Borrelia burgdorferi, (Bb), the spirochete that causes L. borreliosis, moves readily between cold-blooded arachnids (ticks) and a wide variety of mammals, birds, and reptiles. With some effort researchers can grow Bb in test tubes, but In contrast the syphilis spirochete can be cultured only in live lab mammals. No one has ever been able to grow it in a test tube or Petri dish. ... The spirochete causing syphilis does not have plasmids [In microbiology and genetics, a plasmid is a DNA molecule that is separate from, and can replicate independently of, the chromosomal DNA.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmid] ... Unfortunately, the initial academic researchers followed standard medical-scientific procedure: simplify case definition, promote rote treatment, and devote research to supporting foregone conclusions.... Apply Stokes knowledge and insight of syphilis to L. borreliosis. and you will come away with a clear-minded, rational concept of spirochetal infections, something much different from what today's textbooks say about Lyme disease.

Read John Stokes' book.

A modern review of syphilis

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#64327 - 04/29/12 10:41 AM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: donald perry]
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Which Ticks?

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http://www.anapsid.org/lyme/matthewgoss/typeofticks.html Well now I know better. There are at least 8 different kinds of ticks that carry tick-borne diseases. These types include Ixodes scapularis (deer tick), Ixodes pacificus (western black legged tick), Ixodes dammini, Ixodes angustus, Amblyomma americanum(lone star tick), Dermacentor variabilis (American dog tick, sometimes called the wood tick), Rhipicephalus sanguineus latreille(brown dog tick), and Ornithodoros hermsi.
There are lots of web sites on the internet perpetuating the myth that only deer ticks carry Lyme, but if you do enough searching you will also find evidence that many other types of ticks have been proven to carry Lyme and other diseases. I was infected byDermacentor variabilis (American dog tick, sometimes called the wood tick), which most people will tell you does not carry or transmit Lyme. The ticks that bit me were never attached for more than 2 hours, and they were not deeply embedded. Many people will tell you that a tick has to be attached for 24 to 48 hours to transmit Lyme. I know differently.



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The most common Lyme Disease tick vectors include Ixodes scapularis (Deer Tick), Ixodes pacificus (Western Black Legged Tick), Amblyomma americanum (Lone Star Tick), and Ixodes Angustus has been shown to be a competent vector in experiment2. Ixodes dammini was thought to be the only species responsible for transmission until it was shown to be the same species as Ixodes scapularis in 1993. Ixodes spinipalpis is implicated as a vector as well. Ixodes muris has shown to be a weak vector of Lyme disease and more research is needed. Even soft shell ticks can transmit borreliosis to humans1.

Brown Dog Tick (click on photo for more info) Rhipicephalus Sanguineus. This tick has been shown to transmit Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever to humans. They have been shown to carry Lyme but it is still under study as to their ability to pass it on to humans3. Dermacentor ticks may attempt to feed on an infected host (mouse, bird, etc.) enough to become infected with Lyme but be shooed off before the feed is complete. They then may complete their feed on a human host so it is theorized that their may be some level of transmission to humans by Dermacentor ticks.
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[quote]A deer tick acquires the Lyme disease bacteria when it feeds on the blood of a small animal (usually a mouse) which has Lyme disease. Once infected, the deer tick retains the Lyme disease bacteria through subsequent molts. The dog tick (aka wood tick) can also get Lyme disease but the disease is not retained through the subsequent molt so dog tick bites do not generally cause Lyme disease. (Dog tick larvae and nymphs are very similar to deer tick larvae and nymphs, it takes a sharp eye to tell them apart; the palps and hypostome are the most obvious differences).


Testing is difficult.

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"It has to do with deer populations," adding that populations could spread further into Pennsylvania and the Midwest. "They travel with them." Fish said Lyme disease is often misdiagnosed because its symptoms are not that specific and a blood test can sometimes yield false positives.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/researcher_nj_is_loaded_with_t.html


Does the tick get big enough to know about it before it drops of?

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www.pilotfriend.com/aeromed/medical/lyme.htm Deer ticks prefer a habitat of wooded areas and residential lawns, so most cases ... the size of a mechanical pencil lead, they are usually not detected on the skin


Clothing

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ticks go through socks, use a hazmat suit DJP
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#64337 - 04/29/12 12:43 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: donald perry]
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Originally Posted By: charliebutters
lyme has been around for centuries.i have no idea why you posting all this stuff as though its some sort of revelation.


I don't know-----because this is not that party?



Everybody have a logical time, party over out of time.

Knowing Your Enemy in necessary in Order to Defeat Him. Lyme disease is one of the most challenging diseases seen in a long time in that it is difficult to prevent, diagnose and treat.

Iin the beginning of the thread we did not know:

Originally we thought only deer ticks carried Lyme. This is a common mistake among Physicians.

Originally it was believed that socks were enough to keep out deer ticks.

Originally we did not know that Lyme was an epidemic, just as serious here as it is in Lyme, CT.

Originally we did not know we were under attack by eugenicists [see the Bill Gates link/movie] and that Lyme is most plausibly just another example of this OR that labs like the one on Plumb Island all need to be shut down because they cannot keep their test weapons to themselves and inadvertently end up contaminating everything and every person on the planet.

Originally we did not know that ticks are practically invisible.

Originally we did not know that the bill's eye rash does not always appear.

I am trying to find the best way to avoid and treat Lyme. Hazmat suits were invented by DJP for hiking and have proven to be extremely effective. Oxygen Therapy as an absolute cure was disclosed by DJP for this forum.

I think this shit is important, the more I read about it the more careful I become. Thanks to retroscree we now know this is an epidemic [and that he also likes to wear tin foil on his head for some unknown reasons. More on that later perhaps.]. I am bring ticks home every week. I think it pays to be concerned about it before I get it.
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#64341 - 04/29/12 01:46 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: donald perry]
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good luck. and dont forgrt to tuck. good bye

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#64342 - 04/29/12 01:51 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: charliebutters]
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Originally Posted By: charliebutters
good luck. and dont forgrt to tuck. good bye


come on, I was just joking around and trying to be funny. If you leave there will only be three guys left. Sorry, I got carried away again : (


Edited by donald perry (04/29/12 02:19 PM)
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#64345 - 04/29/12 02:40 PM Re: Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks Ticks [Re: donald perry]
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Deer Tick Scapularis has a two-year life cycle, during which time it passes through three stages: larva, nymph, and adult. The tick must take a blood meal at each stage before maturing to the next. Deer tick females latch onto a host and drink its blood for four to five days. After it is engorged, the tick drops off and overwinters in the leaf litter of the forest floor.

What does an engorged nymph look like?


An engorged tick, an adult before attaching to the skin, an engorged nymph, a nymp. (Fred Dubbs). Googleimage.ca
http://westislandgazette.com/lifestyle/meandmypet/2348+#





Edited by donald perry (04/29/12 02:48 PM)
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