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#66303 - 08/21/12 01:52 PM Ama Dablam Trip Report
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Here's a little trip report from a trip to Nepal this year. It's a little onthe verbose side, so if you choose to read it, make sure you have a few minutes:


This past Spring, my climbing partner JT and I took a trip to Nepal to do some climbing. We had both always wanted to climb in the Himalaya, and we've been trying to slowly build our climbing resume to meet the challenges of high altitude mountaineering. After trips to Peru, Alaska, and Patagonia, it was time.
We debated for months about what our objective would be. It's always difficult to figure out what to climb without knowing what the routes look like, or having knowledge of the area. The only thing we knew was that we wanted to climb in the best style possible, and for us that meant unsupported, leading the entire route. In 2008 we climbed in Alaska, summiting the Mooses Tooth, and we both wanted to find something that could closely match the technical challenges we found there.
I've had a copy of "Himalaya Alpine Style" for many years, and I spend a lot of nights flipping pages, daydreaming about what route from that book I would want to undertake if I ever had the chance. The west Pillar of Makalu, the Golden Pillar on Spantik, the North Ridge of K2…any one of these would be a career defining achievement. I'm not Ueli Steck though, and I knew that if I wanted to climb something technical, it would have to be at a lower altitude.
My partner JT suggested we do Ama Dablam by the standard route, the southwest ridge. Initially I was put off by the idea. It is one of the most popular routes in the Himalaya, and it is beaten into submission by dozens of guided parties every year. I took it under advisement though, and I consulted the almighty tome of Himalayan alpine climbing. It did recommend the southwest ridge as a fine route to attempt alpine style. We also thought that for our first attempt at a higher altitude technical route, it would be nice to have the relative safety of a line of fixed ropes to bail from if things went to shit.
I was convinced. If the tome suggests it, I'm in. Suddenly we were faced with organizing a major climbing trip. Hiring a logistics company, deciding what season to climb, obtaining permits, vaccinations, etc, etc. We decided that the spring season would be best for us. The fall climbing season is the peak season, with its more stable weather, clearly draws the bulk of the aspiring guided summiteers. We wanted to climb without a lot of people around us. After deciding when, we got a few quotes from logistics companies for getting our gear to base camp, running a basecamp, acquiring our permits, and all the other logistical headaches. We could have done all of that ourselves, but hey, this is supposed to be a vacation too, right?
Once we had a price we decided to try to find other climbers to join our climbing permit. The permit is two thousand dollars for up to seven climbers. It didn't take too long to catch our first two fish. Cam and Meryl. Cam has a genius idea to climb the most aesthetic peak on each continent. Obviously this is highly subjective, but Ama Dablam was on his list for Asia. So he and his girlfriend Meryl were in. Their friend Chris quickly joined them, and then recruited two of his friends, Mark and Mark. Heretofore they will be referred to as Mark squared.
While we were all on the same permit, we were not planning to climb together. We would all be on the same ridge, but climbing more or less as three separate teams. Mark squared actually decided to hire a climbing Sherpa to help them with their climb as neither of them had much mountain experience. My wife Samantha was also planning on accompanying us to basecamp, and then trekking with two of our friends, Ken and Nora. Everything was in place, I was going to have my wife with me on a mountain trip for the first time, I was PSYCHED!
We all showed up in Kathmandu at different times, which I'm sure our logistics Company, Asian Trekking, just loved! We eventually all met at the Hotel Thamel in the heart of Kathmandu's tourist district, Thamel. I had been to Peru a couple of times, so I had seen what a third world city looked like, but Samantha had not. I will admit, Kathmandu is WAY more third world than Lima. The apparent lack of any traffic patterns, blocks and blocks of buildings in a perpetual state of demolition/construction, monkeys and cows wandering the streets just as comfortably as the people, the heaviness of air that lacks any clean air standards….mix it all together and it is quite overwhelming after getting off the plane.
Kathmandu is not what I always envisioned it being. I know this sounds ridiculous, but growing up in the 80's and watching that stupid Eddie Murphy movie where he goes to Nepal to help rescue the Golden Child, that is what I always wanted Kathmandu to be. Well, of course it isn't. It is a national capital, and it is a hustling, bustling city like every other country's capital center is. It has its charm though. We were fascinated by the seemingly anarchistic collection of electrical wires running overhead, and the extremely narrow streets with too many cars and motorcycles.
The main objective in Kathmandu for the trip was to obtain our climbing permit, and to fly to Lukla, the gateway to the Khumbu Valley. We decided that one person from each "team" should go to the tourism ministry to obtain our permit, and our liaison from Asian Trekking, Kaju, set up our meeting for the day after our arrival. I was officially known as the expedition leader because we had to put down someone's name on the initial paperwork months ago. We were shuffled into a building in central Kathmandu with offices that were filled with 60's era office furniture, and computers from 1983. I had the distinct feeling that both Ed Hillary and Reinhold Messner had sat in the chair I was in.
What ensued was the most surreal 2 hours I have ever had in my life. First, we were shown a twenty minute slideshow about why we should consider Nepal for our vacation. Rather odd we all thought, considering we were already here! Next was the signing of the official papers. Mountain climbing is big business in Nepal, and the government wants to make sure they get their cut. They also want to make sure that the environment is protected, very forward thinking, and I was impressed. The environmental protection part came when they asked us how many canisters of cooking gas we brought with us into Nepal. We would have to make sure that we left with the same amount of canisters. We were not to leave canisters behind. I leaned over to Kaju and asked him very discreetly if they were aware of current airlines regulations prohibiting people from flying with gas canisters. His reply was "They have no idea what they are talking about, just tell them 5". Indeed I did, and in the end, no one ever checked our baggage to make sure we had 5 canisters when we left.
For over an hour I signed paper after paper. If you've ever bought a house, imagine that process and double it. After we were done there was a file for our team that was approaching 6 inches thick. Our team was given a standing round of applause and well wishes, and then we were let loose.
When I got back to the hotel I had a message at the front desk. Who could possibly be leaving me a message in Kathmandu? I was informed that a certain Ms. Elizabeth Hawley was requesting a meeting with me. If you don't know who Elizabeth Hawley is, she is a Himalayan legend on par with Tenzing and Hillary. While not a climber herself, she has been fastidiously documenting every Himalayan ascent for well over 50 years or so, and she wanted to talk to me! You're damned right I would make whatever time necessary to meet Ms. Hawley. She showed up in her powder blue 1960 something Volkwagen Beetle 15 minutes later. She is well into her 90's now, and is walking with a walker due to a pelvic fracture last year. She looks as if she might collapse under her own 90 pound weight, but her wit and memory are as sharp as knives.
She took down all the little details of our group and our intended route. She then regaled us with every major ascent of the route, what the conditions were like at every section of the route, best places to find camps, and it was all from memory from a woman who had never even set foot on the mountain. When I told her that me and JT were planning to climb it alpine style she gave me one upturned eyebrow and examined me for 3 seconds, and said in a classic haughty British accent, "well good luck with that then". It was classic.
That night we were all invited to Asian Trekking for a pre trip dinner party. Ang Rita Sherpa, the owner of Asian Trekking, gave us a great send off, with wonderful food, drink and hospitality. We were introduced to our head Sirdar as well, Nima Sherpa. The head Sirdar is responsible for all the organization of baggage, porters, cooks, flights, etc. In addition, Nima was doubling as the climbing guide for Mark squared.
The next morning we found ourselves squeezed into a plane that was no wider than my Toyota Tacoma, and probably much less taken care of. One flight attendant dutifully shuffled down the 18"wide aisle with a small aluminum try of mints and earplugs. Once we lifted out of the morning fog and smog of the Kathmandu Valley we were greeted by a shining, sparkling spine of mountains to which there are no known rivals on the planet. How many 8000 meter peaks can you identify?! From the Annapurnas to the west, Dhauligiri, Manaslu, Everest, and finally Kanchenjunga to the east. Legendary all of them are. It was too much to take in at once, and I felt like a kid who was visiting Disneyland for the first time.
Within 40 minutes we were making the approach to the Lukla airport. Continually making the list of the top 10 most dangerous airports in the world, the single landing strip sits on an absurd angle above a large cliff, and nestled into tight mountain basin. Stepping off the plane, heart still in our throats, we were initiated into the mountains with that first sharp, crisp draw of cold air into our lungs. Kathmandu is hot, and we had gotten used to the stifling heat. I started shivering instantly. How the hell am I ever going to survive up here I asked myself. The landing strip is a crazy scene of planes being rapidly unloaded, and dozens of porters looking to pick up loads to carry. We would have been really hard pressed to make any sense of this and get our stuff organized, but Nima has this scene down.
Nima is twenty-years old, but his mannerisms and demeanor make him seem much more experienced. Standing there among the throng of porters in his matching blue track suit and aviator sunglasses, he had a handful of porters hired, and our bags being hauled away within minutes. Nima is a two time Everest sumiteer, and at first gives off a very businesslike and rather cold personality, but with hours we broke his fa

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#66306 - 08/21/12 01:59 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Sorry, having a problem. Hold that thougt.

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#66311 - 08/21/12 02:07 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Can't seem to cut and paste this thing into here. Sorry folks. I will work on it

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#66314 - 08/21/12 05:01 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Okay maybe one of you computer geeks can help me out here. I'm trying to cut and paste the TR into here. It's 11 pages long, and the first attempt only allowed a couple of pages. I am trying to post it in several different posts, but now when I try to cut and paste the next section, it only allows the first sentence to transfer into the new post. What the hell!?

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#66316 - 08/21/12 05:40 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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I'm responding to the above post rather than sending a personal message in order to tip off others.
Here's what I do. After cutting and pasting text from a Web source or a word processor, I tediously go over the stuff. (Eleven pages will be ball-busting; sorry about that Rob.) Every hyphen must be gone over by typing a replacement from the keyboard. The same is true for apostrophes and many of those characters above the numbers on the keyboard. This is because the characters mentioned have different codes in UBB and I don't know why.
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#66318 - 08/21/12 06:48 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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You can also use search and replace in your word processor.

You can put it on some other forum (that doesn't require any sort of registration for viewing it) and cross-post the link wherever you like.

You can put it up on your own free blog somewhere.

You can sign up for a posterous.com free account and put it there, complete with photos.

PS: an 11 page TR without photos almost guarantees it won't be read.

For a great example of good TRs, take a look at those posted by Mark Hudon over on the taco stand.

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#66320 - 08/21/12 07:55 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: retroscree]
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Based on what's here, I think Rob's a great writer. I'll read 11 pages without photos no problem. But I ain't exactly the Twitter generation either.

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#66322 - 08/21/12 10:23 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: rg@ofmc]
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moremoremoremore please.

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#66324 - 08/21/12 11:42 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: crimpy]
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I'd be happy with the installment plan. Stretch this out over a few days. Nothing else is going on here as of late, and it's reading quite nicely Rob. Photos would be cool, but your narrative is bringing up some nice mental images.

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#66326 - 08/22/12 02:15 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: Rickster]
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Edited by RangerRob (08/22/12 02:17 AM)

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#66327 - 08/22/12 06:03 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Great writeup! I particularly loved your description of the gear bazaar at Namche, that "come dance with me" peak, that spot-on description of Ms. Hawley, the permit meeting....

Brings back great memories. Sad to hear there is so much trash these days. When I was there a decade ago the only trash on the route was the toilet area at camp 2 - which some guys wound up bivying on with space blankets, to our amusement/consternation - and some old fixed rope, some of which we were able to chop and remove.

I am sorry you didn't give climbing the Yellow Tower a try on your first day. It can be climbed in boots with a pack by at least one Gunks 5.8 climber.... It's probably just as well, though, that you weren't higher in that storm.

We need to send you on more trips so you can write more trip reports. I'll make my first contribution to the RR TR Expedition Fund in beers.

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#66328 - 08/22/12 06:22 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: tradjunkie]
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Originally Posted By: tradjunkie

We need to send you on more trips so you can write more trip reports. I'll make my first contribution to the RR TR Expedition Fund in beers.


Count me in! Awesome TR rob!

...of course, slopur would have sent... smile

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#66329 - 08/22/12 10:51 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Not only is that Posterous page a good write-up, but I'm amazed at the difference in quality between that and Rob's posts here.
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#66330 - 08/22/12 10:53 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: retroscree]
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You can also use search and replace in your word processor.

My experience with Microsoft Word is that the truncation problem yet persists.
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#66331 - 08/22/12 12:57 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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Look at the original post and note where the truncation takes place. From the Posterous post, we see that the next character after fa is a c with a sedilla underneath it, which, for obvious reason, I won't illustrate here. Apparently this along with the hyphen and apostrophe tells UBB that the message is at an end. Boo to UBB!
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#66332 - 08/22/12 01:09 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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How do you know all of this? All I know is that I type, and words appear on the screen. Hey I'm all for the RR trip fund!

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#66333 - 08/22/12 01:17 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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How do you know all of this?

Just by &@(*^% trial and error with lots of the latter. Isn't it good to know why sometimes your words don't appear?
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#66334 - 08/22/12 02:03 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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Thank you Rob. Memories awakened for me as well, from another time, another peak.

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#66335 - 08/22/12 02:19 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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Originally Posted By: oenophore
My experience with Microsoft Word is that the truncation problem yet persists.

That's because there are, for example, two different kinds of dashes in MS Word. You have to search and, especially, replace with the right kind. Look up the difference in the en dash vs the em dash in MS Word.
For starters: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/msoffice/four-ways-to-insert-an-em-dash-in-a-word-document/2721

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#66336 - 08/22/12 03:09 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: retroscree]
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nice writeup amigo - I can almost taste the momos and nak cheese again...
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#66340 - 08/22/12 07:47 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: retroscree]
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Originally Posted By: oenophore
My experience with Microsoft Word is that the truncation problem yet persists.

That's because there are, for example, two different kinds of dashes in MS Word. You have to search and, especially, replace with the right kind. Look up the difference in the en dash vs the em dash in MS Word.
For starters: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/msoffice/four-ways-to-insert-an-em-dash-in-a-word-document/2721
I have typed text into a post here, copied it into Microsoft Word to spell/grammar check it, then copied it back into the post box with the above-mentioned truncations as a result.
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#66343 - 08/22/12 10:47 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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Originally Posted By: retroscree
Originally Posted By: oenophore
My experience with Microsoft Word is that the truncation problem yet persists.

That's because there are, for example, two different kinds of dashes in MS Word. You have to search and, especially, replace with the right kind. Look up the difference in the en dash vs the em dash in MS Word.
For starters: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/msoffice/four-ways-to-insert-an-em-dash-in-a-word-document/2721
I have typed text into a post here, copied it into Microsoft Word to spell/grammar check it, then copied it back into the post box with the above-mentioned truncations as a result.

That's because MS Word converts the dash you type here to an em-dash, which causes either the page code or database here that stores the posts to gag when you paste it back into a post. I've even encountered the inability to paste from one post to another on this site without hitting the special character truncation bug.

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#66344 - 08/22/12 11:06 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: retroscree]
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I've even encountered the inability to paste from one post to another on this site without hitting the special character truncation bug.

And what has UBB done about this longstanding bug?
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#66345 - 08/22/12 11:34 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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Awesome report, Rob. I enjoyed every word of it, and learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to write it. The care you took with it is obvious.
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#66346 - 08/22/12 11:42 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: oenophore]
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Go to the UBB site (link at bottom of page) and see what you can find out in their forums.

Could be a MySQL bug instead and have nothing to do with UBB Threads.

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#66347 - 08/22/12 11:47 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: SethG]
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What Seth said. Very nice. Pix?
Originally Posted By: SethG
Awesome report, Rob. I enjoyed every word of it, and learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to write it. The care you took with it is obvious.

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#66348 - 08/23/12 01:25 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: fotovult]
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A superb write-up Rob. It deserves a bigger audience---at least post it in the TR section of Supertopo.

The last time I thought I might be an Alpinist was in the 70's. After escaping unscathed from a massive and deadly rockfall in the Alps, I decided I had used up all my nine lives in one sitting. Henceforth, I concluded, back-country rock-climbing, Wind River and Sierra style, was more suited to my temperament and tolerance for risk, and it proved to be not without adventure.

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#66352 - 08/23/12 02:36 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: rg@ofmc]
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Thanks Rob.

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#66355 - 08/24/12 04:05 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: chip]
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Yes, Thanks for the write-up...Pics?

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#66364 - 08/24/12 08:46 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: cfrac]
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Maybe a R&S or MP slide show should be in the works. Always a better venue for lots of photos.

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#66413 - 08/29/12 02:36 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: Rickster]
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Not that many good photos

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#66419 - 08/29/12 04:09 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Nice job RR! Way to aim high! Tis better to try for something special and come up a bit short having fought the good fight than to succeed at something not as worthwhile.

your trip to AK inspired my own adventure in the Ruth. I am not sure whether I will be able to achieve enough experience in the high alpine to legitimately aspire to the Himalaya, but if so, will certainly take incorporate your lessons.

glad you are all back safely with stories and experiences to last a lifetime.

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#66442 - 08/31/12 03:20 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: wombat]
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Rob is begging off photos so I thought I'd share this one of him and a baby yak.




And the team:


And the mountain:

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#66443 - 08/31/12 03:49 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Originally Posted By: RangerRob
Not that many good photos

How is that possible, given the quality of the TR? I don't believe it for an instant! laugh

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#66464 - 09/02/12 01:02 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: retroscree]
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They held a gun to my head and made me pet that baby yak. I didn't want to. It was the ugliest thing I had ever set eyes on...

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#66479 - 09/04/12 01:11 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Thanks Chris. Great pictures.

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#66536 - 09/10/12 06:31 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: chip]
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Very cool story - thanks for the write-up!
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#66539 - 09/10/12 10:07 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: Mim]
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I finally got around to reading this today. Great write up Rob! Oh btw, that's the same thing the yak said about you!
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#66724 - 10/11/12 02:36 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: Rickster]
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When I've read it, I'm sure I'll agree that this is the best trip report ever!

Now if only we could get a cage match between Slopur Lokov and Tico...
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#66727 - 10/11/12 02:59 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: webmaster]
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When I've read it, I'm sure I'll agree that this is the best trip report ever!

Now if only we could get a cage match between Slopur Lokov and Tico...


heh heh.

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#66739 - 10/13/12 07:31 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: crackers]
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Ok, so now I've read it, and I do agree.

Rob, this was really enjoyable reading, very personable and devoid of the kind of aggrandizement I've come to dread in most trip reports. Most interesting to hear the internal dialog and emotional reactions. Makes for a deep portrait.
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#66741 - 10/15/12 02:29 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: webmaster]
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RR deep? Who knew?

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#66743 - 10/15/12 04:59 PM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: chip]
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What if.....the sun really doesn't rise in the east.......hmmmm

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#67736 - 04/05/13 07:47 AM Re: Ama Dablam Trip Report [Re: RangerRob]
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Came by to visit again and found this. Very glad I did. Great read.

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