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#66505 - 09/07/12 12:15 PM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: pitfall]
Rickster Offline
old hand

Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 853
Loc: Orange Cty, NY
Originally Posted By: pitfall

A piton can be used to open a beer bottle.


Or, eat sardines and rurps were great key fobs BITD.

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#67818 - 04/15/13 02:32 PM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: Rickster]
talus Offline
veteran

Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 1259
well the scree field is back on top of Son of Easy O




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#67822 - 04/15/13 03:08 PM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: talus]
rg@ofmc Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 12/25/99
Posts: 2472
Loc: Poughkeepsie, NY
Still not nearly as bad as it was before cleaning a year ago, but perhaps another brief trip to the top sometime this Spring would be in order.

What we know for sure, regardless of what rap anchors are or are not present, is that parties are still going to the top. I suspect many of the ones that do go to the top are arriving by way of Easy O and are among the less-experienced climbers at the crag. Even so, "experience" nowadays does not necessarily have anything to do with careful walking and rope handling on loose ground; there seem to be some "experienced" climbers who are pretty oblivious to the danger to others.

Meanwhile, there are loads of people down at the base, exposed to the missteps of the beginners and oblivious "experts" at the top. If Rob and I or anyone else wants to go up there on our own time and spend an hour or so making the place a lot safer by moving the larger missiles off the launching pad, even if the task has to be repeated on a yearly basis, I'm at a total loss to see why this is so terrible.

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#67841 - 04/16/13 06:35 PM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: rg@ofmc]
RangerRob Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/06/00
Posts: 3765
Loc: Ulster County, NY
I'll bring the PBR. It should take the better part of an hour. Interested Talus?

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#67853 - 04/16/13 10:18 PM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: rg@ofmc]
tradjunkie Offline
enthusiast

Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 365
Everybody remember the longstanding climbers' tradition that after successfully climbing SoEO, you move one rock out of the way for good luck.

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#67854 - 04/16/13 10:36 PM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: tradjunkie]
cfrac Offline
addict

Registered: 04/26/08
Posts: 462
No, you carry it to the summit of Skylight, which guarantees no rain above treeline if the rock comes from the SoEO gully.

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#67865 - 04/18/13 12:50 AM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: cfrac]
TrappDyke Offline
journeyman

Registered: 06/10/09
Posts: 80
Not worth topping out any more. I'm pretty sure continual clearing of the rocks is just going to make it worse. I think the best idea might actually be to close down the top of the route for a few years and let it revegetate.

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#67866 - 04/18/13 01:08 AM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: TrappDyke]
Rickster Offline
old hand

Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 853
Loc: Orange Cty, NY
Originally Posted By: TrappDyke
...I'm pretty sure continual clearing of the rocks is just going to make it worse....


Absolutely TD.
Continually removing the stones and rocks will just allow the runoff to more quickly erode the exit trail. You'll notice in the posted photos above the depth of that exit trail as it appears to becoming more of a trough or shallow gully.

Not only will a common water bar divert runoff, it may possibly catch stones and rocks well above the cliff edge.

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#67867 - 04/18/13 02:10 AM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: Rickster]
RangerRob Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/06/00
Posts: 3765
Loc: Ulster County, NY
Sounds like you are volunteering to build a waterbar up there Rick. Thanks a lot!

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#67871 - 04/18/13 11:23 AM Re: Son of easy o rap [Re: RangerRob]
Rickster Offline
old hand

Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 853
Loc: Orange Cty, NY
Originally Posted By: RangerRob
Sounds like you are volunteering to build a waterbar up there Rick. Thanks a lot!

Suggested it last year.

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