I cant believe no one else caught this on the trollRadar.
First post? seems suspect. but what do I know. I've tasted troll bait, I know how good it tastes.

Do you mean the original post or this troll:

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Jackie sucks. I hate that route. Don't do that one.

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except that he is a she!

whoops. sorry tradgirl.

And I really hate it. No really. I've vowed never to lead that thing again because I can feel just as miserable on something much harder but feel better about feeling that miserable. And I don't think the gear is that great either. And that tree is coming down some day soon. So there.

Now why would the original post be a troll? If it is, it's not a very interesting one. Plenty of people have led 5.6 for their first lead. OK, my first lead was 5.2 and I fell off of it, but my second lead was 5.6. And it wasn't Jackie.

It's been a while for me, but I remember Jackie as being well-protected with or without the tree.

I like the route because it has an instructional component to it ... the crux is often considered awkward, but by bringing more technique to bear, the awkwardness all but disappears.

And it has a great finish.

Again ... FWIW ... Jackie is not 5.6.

I think the first time I tried jackie, I started up a few feet and decided to traverse way right for some reason (I think it was one of my first times in the gunks and I had no guidebook or clue) and ended up on classic. Edited to add: Do you think my variation could be called Jackass?

It's not the roof I hate. It's the alcove and the moves getting up to it.

And yeah, the gear's good, but not for a 5.5G if you know what I mean. It's tinkery. Again, I'm not talking about the roof.