The second and third pitches are both reasonably well described in the Williams Select. The second pitch is definitely worth doing, and I thought the Williams thrid pitch was fun as well: from the GT ledge, walk left about 15 feet, climb the face left of the left-facing corner up to the overhang, traverse right underneath the overhang around the nose and to the top (5.7). Short but exciting, plus it's closer in grade to the rest of the route. Makes for a nice finish.

In through the out door

What are you trying to tell us here, d-?


My 'out door' is exit only, thank you very much.


back on topic - I'd like to check out p2 of Snookys, linking it to the Minty O/H variation sounds like a nice combo.

I think we should change the name of Minty to "Sam"

If anyone out there ever learns the answer to my original question, let us know. Thanks!

some already did, it was probably a variation to minty if it was that close to it, and if felt 5.7 ish, than it was probably 5.5

however the book of dick list a 5.7R variation but it does not list for what pitch, but my guess is the first one

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I think you meant to say "two incredibly hot chicks let me use their book and I then found climbing beside them nearly irresistable"

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I stand corrected! In actuality, I saw exactly where the route went but purposely went off route and then used the old, "Excuse me, do you happen to have a book handy?" line as my opener.