Williams Guide Books

Posted by: gunks

Williams Guide Books - 08/25/10 01:41 PM

Are there 4 editions of the Williams' guides? Blue, red, black & grey?
Posted by: chip

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/25/10 01:58 PM

There was also a "Classics" version.
Posted by: quanto_the_mad

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/25/10 02:21 PM

1972 - Blue, 134p
1980 - Red, 463p
1991 - Black, Trapps
1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook
1991 - Black, Skytop
1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop
2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop
2004 - Grey Trapps
2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook

Posted by: HR1

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/25/10 03:08 PM

The Purple Nears was from 2008
Posted by: quanto_the_mad

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/25/10 04:02 PM

Yep, thanks, was a typo.
Posted by: gunks

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
1972 - Blue, 134p
1980 - Red, 463p
1991 - Black, Trapps
1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook
1991 - Black, Skytop
1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop
2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop
2004 - Grey Trapps
2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook


Thanks. My collection is complete.
Posted by: quanto_the_mad

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: gunks
Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
1972 - Blue, 134p
1980 - Red, 463p
1991 - Black, Trapps
1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook
1991 - Black, Skytop
1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop
2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop
2004 - Grey Trapps
2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook


Thanks. My collection is complete.


Time to start saving for a Gran grin
Posted by: curt

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 06:40 AM

Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
Originally Posted By: gunks
Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
1972 - Blue, 134p
1980 - Red, 463p
1991 - Black, Trapps
1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook
1991 - Black, Skytop
1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop
2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop
2004 - Grey Trapps
2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook


Thanks. My collection is complete.


Time to start saving for a Gran grin


Indeed, no collection is complete without the red hardcover 1964 Gran guidebook.

Curt
Posted by: oenophore

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 10:39 AM

I wonder how many people have all the above.
Posted by: RangerRob

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 01:00 PM

What's a guidebook?
Posted by: pitfall

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 01:17 PM

A guidebook is that thing that's probably sitting next to your cell phone.
Posted by: HR1

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 01:55 PM

Originally Posted By: RangerRob
What's a guidebook?


You know, the thing that gives you guidance like this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DcUejZ7oEjY/SM...ationLowRes.jpg
Posted by: MarcC

Re: Williams Guide Books - 08/30/10 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By: oenophore
I wonder how many people have all the above.

I don't have the last 3, having moved from the area in late 2000. I do have a Gran though, along with an almost complete set of Eastern Trades as well as all the Swains and Ivan Rezuka's supplement (aka New 5.8s for 5.11 Leaders).
Posted by: gunks

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/17/10 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: curt
Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
Originally Posted By: gunks
Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
1972 - Blue, 134p
1980 - Red, 463p
1991 - Black, Trapps
1991 - Black, Nears & Millbrook
1991 - Black, Skytop
1996 - Select, 384p w/ skytop
2001 - Select 2nd ed, 263p w/o skytop
2004 - Grey Trapps
2008 - Purple Nears/Millbrook


Thanks. My collection is complete.


Time to start saving for a Gran grin


Indeed, no collection is complete without the red hardcover 1964 Gran guidebook.

Curt


Just received copy of the Gran. Don't ask "how much?" smile.
Posted by: MarcC

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/17/10 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: gunks
Just received copy of the Gran. Don't ask "how much?" smile.

Actually, I will! Curious as to what they're going for these days. I bought mine in 96 for $200.
Posted by: gunks

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/17/10 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: MarcC
Originally Posted By: gunks
Just received copy of the Gran. Don't ask "how much?" smile.

Actually, I will! Curious as to what they're going for these days. I bought mine in 96 for $200.


It is selling for $495 at Chessler Books.
Posted by: oenophore

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/17/10 07:16 PM

Holy *^#&%$%$@!
Might this be the most expensive modest book published in 1964?
Posted by: HR1

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/17/10 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: oenophore
Holy *^#&%$%$@!
Might this be the most expensive modest book published in 1964?


Probably not, although I'm not sure what you mean by "modest book." This site estimates the value of a first ed. of Where The Wild Things Are (1963) at over $10,000. Not too bad for children's book!
Posted by: oenophore

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/17/10 08:05 PM

Holy *^#&%$%$@ once more. The Gran guide is a modest book, not a huge gilded illuminated fancy art book.
Come to think of it, I have a Williams red book with signatures of the author, Hans Kraus and Fritz Wiessner. What's that going for nowadays. (No use telling me that it's next to worthless, but out of sympathy for me you'll pay me $20 for it.)
Posted by: gunks

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/20/10 12:59 AM

Quote:

Come to think of it, I have a Williams red book with signatures of the author, Hans Kraus and Fritz Wiessner. What's that going for nowadays. (No use telling me that it's next to worthless, but out of sympathy for me you'll pay me $20 for it.)


I'll pay you $20 for your red Williams. PM me.
Posted by: MarcC

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/20/10 05:25 AM

Originally Posted By: gunks
Quote:

Come to think of it, I have a Williams red book with signatures of the author, Hans Kraus and Fritz Wiessner. What's that going for nowadays. (No use telling me that it's next to worthless, but out of sympathy for me you'll pay me $20 for it.)


I'll pay you $20 for your red Williams. PM me.

He's pulling your leg, gunks. Um, I believe they were a bit more than $20 when we bought them (I have one too) simply because of the signatures.
Posted by: quanto_the_mad

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/20/10 09:21 PM

I've seen Red Williams go for as little as $5. There's a bunch now for under $10.

What it's worth with the signatures I can't say...
Posted by: oenophore

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/20/10 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: quanto_the_mad
I've seen Red Williams go for as little as $5. There's a bunch now for under $10.

What it's worth with the signatures I can't say...
To quote MarcC, "He's pulling your leg".
Posted by: quanto_the_mad

Re: Williams Guide Books - 09/21/10 05:33 PM

I'm just saying, you can buy an unsigned red for $10, in case you're looking to fill out your collection. There are a lot of them out there.

The Blue pops up now and then, I've seen a couple go for under $20 recently.

The Black Trapps was going for about $100 for a while, but it's dropped now that the Grey Trapps is out. Still not cheap, you can find it for under $40. The Nears and Skytop books are easy to find.

I've seen the Gran on sale for over $600, maybe Chessler reduced the price recently as it was there for a couple of years.
Posted by: SethG

Re: Williams Guide Books - 10/18/10 03:13 PM

Something I've wanted to get my hands on for a while is Rezucha's "Shawangunk Grit," which I understand was his own pamphlet/guidebook concerning the climbs he put up in the Seventies and Eighties.

I sent Ivan a message through mountainproject.com asking about it, and he told me he didn't think he had any copies. He suggested I contact Annie O'Neill, which I thought was amusing. I'd love to buy it or get a copy of it if someone has it lying around. I really enjoyed reading the "new" route descriptions in the Vulgarian Digest recently. Maybe if some enterprising person wanted to scan it, we could ask Ivan if he'd mind.
Posted by: M Jimmerson

Re: Williams Guide Books - 03/21/13 08:58 PM

If anyone is interested in Gunks guides, including Gran, Williams, Rezucha or Swain guides, I have them for sale.

I am selling off a very large collection of guidebooks and would like to find other rock climbing guidebook collectors.

You can reach me at jimmerson@earthlink.net

Thanks.
Posted by: curmudgeon

Re: Williams Guide Books - 03/22/13 01:41 PM

Email sent.