Posted by: zachres
Nyah Nyah
Posted by: oenophore
Re: Nyah Nyah - 03/30/06 10:57 PM
Maybe God hates pains-in-the-ass who bug him too much.
Posted by: The Lisa
Re: Nyah Nyah - 03/30/06 11:07 PM
Remember: 'God helps those who help themselves'.
Because when people help themselves, there is no need for God to do anything.
Because when people help themselves, there is no need for God to do anything.
Posted by: dalguard
Re: Nyah Nyah - 03/31/06 03:02 AM
Quote:Maybe the people who thought God was going to help them didn't bother to help themselves.
They also said they had no explanation for the higher complication rate in patients who knew they were being prayed for
Posted by: oenophore
Re: Nyah Nyah - 03/31/06 05:04 PM
On a more serious note than that of my flippant first reply, I'm a bit surprised. Shamans (faith healers, witch doctors, medicine men, etc.) have had a powerful beneficial placebo effect on the afflicted. There's no way to have a double-blind hands-on experience, I suppose. How might one conduct such an experiment?
Posted by: timh
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/01/06 03:37 PM
Maybe the subject's reaction to beng told that someone else was praying/making burnt offerings/sacrificing virgins on their behalf was one of "Oh no, I must really be f*****." Alturnatively , could it be a concern that said entrieties were not directed to the appropriate deity?
Posted by: dalguard
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/01/06 04:30 PM
That's a good point. If you actually believe there's a god, you've got to believe there's a right one. They're not interchangeable. Did the study say which one they picked?
Posted by: Mike Rawdon
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/01/06 07:07 PM
Quote:
Maybe the subject's reaction to beng told that someone else was praying/making burnt offerings/sacrificing virgins on their behalf was one of "Oh no, I must really be f*****." Alturnatively , could it be a concern that said entrieties were not directed to the appropriate deity?
Or maybe they rolled the prayer up with other intentions:
"Please lord, help that dude get well, OK? And grant that our service men and women shall emerge victorious in your name in their crusade to spread democracy and stability to the heathens of Iraq so that they too can worship you and praise you on cable TV like we can, because, well, we all know that's what you want, OK?"
Posted by: gibroni
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/01/06 11:57 PM
Quote:
Remember: 'God helps those who help themselves'.
Because when people help themselves, there is no need for God to do anything.
Check it, God is definitely on sabbatical.....................................and maybe he's found somewhere better?
Wouldn't you if you had the power of free will?
Posted by: gibroni
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/02/06 12:06 AM
Maybe he'll show his sly self once all of this squabbling is over..............................
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Posted by: yorick
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/02/06 09:34 AM
Quote:
Shamans (faith healers, witch doctors, medicine men, etc.) have had a powerful beneficial placebo effect on the afflicted.
Are you suggesting Shamanism works only through a placebo-effect?
Posted by: d-elvis
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/03/06 01:40 PM
Oh lord, won't you buy me a mercedes benz?
Posted by: oenophore
Re: Nyah Nyah - 04/03/06 02:46 PM
Quote:Good point! I made that assumption because of a lack of plausible palpable mechanism for the effect.Quote:Are you suggesting Shamanism works only through a placebo-effect?
Shamans (faith healers, witch doctors, medicine men, etc.) have had a powerful beneficial placebo effect on the afflicted.